35mm Ektachrome 100 bulk availability

[AgX]

I see this as conformation of my assumption of origin of these films.

 

[brbo]

Shocker!!!

 

[mohmad khatab]

For those considering converting this film and using it in still cameras, I've received a response to a question I sent to someone I know who I would describe as a well informed and eminently reliable source.
"There should be no concerns in processing the 135 format E100 or the motion picture 5294 in a home tank, Jobo, Sidekick or external lab processor. They should process out the same or nearly identical to each other. The dye statement added to the 5294 Data Sheet is added more as information to (motion picture) labs that are used to ECN-2 or B&W chemistries and processors that there are different dyes and different reactions that have different colors that will come out when processing an E-6 product. Some of this is due to the anti-halation dyes used in the film which are very different than those used in B&W films where no rem-jet backing is employed."

You are a really respectable man and you often come to us with very wonderful information, and most of us most of us need it most..
You are really right
(ECN2) films, packed manually in Egypt, are sold by one of the laboratories so that the price includes development.
This lab uses Bellini's Italian chemistry with a JOBO . machine
I actually received some information from many young photographers who buy these films that they were never satisfied with the colors in their films.
There may be slight changes in the process
Thank you very much

 

[destroya]

well, took a leap and ordered a 400 footer. should get it next week. hoping it was a good use of some of my tax return

john

my film shipped today and should arrive fri. pretty fast, 2 day fedex across the country for only $10. hopeing to shoot a few rolls this weekend and then since its supposed to rain a little on monday maybe develop them then. 93 degrees tomorrow, then 53 on mon. these temp swings are killing my hiking and photo outings.

john

 

[pbromaghin]

my film shipped today and should arrive fri. pretty fast, 2 day fedex across the country for only $10. hopeing to shoot a few rolls this weekend and then since its supposed to rain a little on monday maybe develop them then. 93 degrees tomorrow, then 53 on mon. these temp swings are killing my hiking and photo outings.

john

Where did you order from?

 

[destroya]

Where did you order from?

directly from eastman motion picture film division

 

[Joel_L]

I like this. I found two 3D printable loaders. One loads direct from the 400ft roll to a cassette. The other is a 400ft to 100ft tool. The latter is the way I'd probably go.

 

[Donald Qualls]

One loads direct from the 400ft roll to a cassette.

Can you link to a source for the printable files (.stl or equivalent) for that? I've been looking for one of those almost since I got my Ender 3. It should just about fit on the build plate if they didn't go overboard on thickness, since a 400 foot roll is only about 6 1/2 inches diameter (and I have 8x8xalmost 10 inche build volume).

I've got the files for a roll converter -- pretty simple in general, but it's an "in the dark" operation, and you get a coreless roll unless you provide your own cores (those are pretty easily to 3D print as well).

 

[Joel_L]

Both types

400ft to 100ft Bulk Film Respooler by broken_perfectionist

I designed a bulk film respooler to help convert 400ft rolls of film to the more commonly available 100ft spools. This was designed to be as small as possible so it can fit in your dark bag. UPDATE:Experimental Version 2.1 - 400ft-100ft BASE ONLYVersion 2.0 without sidewallsVersion 1.0 with...

www.thingiverse.com

400ft+ roll Film Bulk Loader

It is a movie reel bulk loader. Is design for reels with the center core. Specifically the U code which has a inner diameter of 25.4mm. You will need to apply some felt to the film exit to properly light seal it. I used felt from my local fabric supply shop. Enjoy.

cults3d.com

printable 100ft loader

Bulk Film Spooler by nevillefrancismorris

A bulk loader for the film photographer!Just add two 48x48 mm squares of felt to make the light trap. I used a thick (~2mm) type of felt. Double up if your felt is thin. Use super glue!Print on the largest, flattest surface of each model. Use a raft at will if you're concerned the model will...

www.thingiverse.com

 

[Donald Qualls]

Thanks! That will complete my set (I've got the 100' loader and respooler files already).

 

[AgX]

Thank you Joel, for digging these up. I did not even search for such as I did not think such would already exist...

I myself can use a modiefied 16 cine spooler. But I would have no problem respoolin a 400 feet roll by hand into 100 feet rolls. Basically it comes down concernin hassle as hand rolling each type 135 cassette twice. Thus doable.

 

[Donald Qualls]

It turned out I already have that 400-foot-to-cassette loader model -- but can't print it, because it's about 30 mm too large both directions to fit my build volume (and wouldn't print well standing up on edge). And that's bigger than it needs to be, I'm pretty sure. By my calculation, 400 feet of film at 0.007" thick on a 1" core shouldn't exceed 6 1/2" diameter. If that loader's chamber were reduced to, say, 6 3/4" (instead of just about 8") I'd be able to print it. I bet it's sized for film on a daylight loading spool, but AFAIK those don't exist in 35mm -- they're a thing in 16 mm and Double 8.

So I looked at having it service printed -- looks like I can get it in black PLA with sanded finish (why is that cheaper than standard layered finish?!) at 60% infill for about $103, same for carbon reinforced black PLA (which is likely to be a little more opaque). If I had a model that would fit my printer, I could print it for under $20 in filament (plus any failed prints, of course).

Sigh...

Back to trying to CAD one for myself with a 6 3/4" chamber.

 

[destroya]

I shot 2 E100 rolls a few days ago and developed 1 along with some provia and velvia. the dye that came out was no different than any other e-6 film I've done, but maybe a little more intense, meaning it took an exta wash cycle to get the wash water to come out clear. very much like ektar or tmax when I develop it. So I have no worries about my chems. they were no different after the 4 rolls of velvia than they were after the E100. the 35mm film is just like the E100 I have shot in 4x5. for the price, I might buy another 2 or 3 400 ft rolls (there is no price break for 1000 ft rolls over 400 and the 400 are easier to roll to 100 ft lengths and store) before they raise the price on the film. seems twice a year now film prices get a significant price bump, but inflation is hitting everything it seems.

so the price break is a great buy compared to buying regular 35mm rolls. Just like it used to be when you bought bulk rolls of B&W film. too be honest, I might buy even more of the film if I didnt keep having thoughts that I would not be able to buy the chems and develop it myself at home. the thought of paying $10 a roll for development is insane to me.

john

 

[destroya]

I wrote the 4/22 to give me a purchase date that was visible on the can.

 

[willfrancis]

This is fantastic news given the price difference! Now, how to get some of these bulk rolls over to the U.K…

Does anyone have any idea how safe these might be to get shipped internationally in terms of X-rays etc? Also, are there any other U.K. shooters that might be interested in doing a ‘bulk’ bulk order and then splitting this up over on this side of the pond?

 

[AgX]

There are few dealers in Europe selling Kodak cine films.


But see here too:

Kodak Film Order & Catalogue - Buy Kodak Film

Price catalogs and information on how to order KODAK Motion Picture Film

www.kodak.com

Which means you have to call Kodak in Rochester.
After the splitting of Kodak things have become a mess in Europe. Contacts are no longer published.

 

[perkeleellinen]

Also, are there any other U.K. shooters that might be interested in doing a ‘bulk’ bulk order and then splitting this up over on this side of the pond?

Yes, especially if we can get it from a UK or EU distributor.

 

[YoIaMoNwater]

This is fantastic news given the price difference! Now, how to get some of these bulk rolls over to the U.K…

Does anyone have any idea how safe these might be to get shipped internationally in terms of X-rays etc? Also, are there any other U.K. shooters that might be interested in doing a ‘bulk’ bulk order and then splitting this up over on this side of the pond?

Plus one here if you can find a way to respool it into 100 ft rolls. I have some empty spools but can’t respool myself.

 

[pbromaghin]

But see here too:

Kodak Film Order & Catalogue - Buy Kodak Film

Price catalogs and information on how to order KODAK Motion Picture Film

www.kodak.com

I took a look at it and got all excited that they have 250D in 200ft reels. But then I saw the minimum order quantity of 15

 

[fdonadio]

The lab is going to be most concerned that it isn't something with remjet like Vision.

Anyone that works in a lab should easily spot a RemJet-backed film. It’s really easy to see that the film is completely black on the base side. I don’t remember any other films that look that way.

 

[MattKing]

Anyone that works in a lab should easily spot a RemJet-backed film. It’s really easy to see that the film is completely black on the base side. I don’t remember any other films that look that way.

There are a lot of labs out there that don’t ever see the film until after it has been through the process. 35mm film cassettes are often loaded into the processing machinery in complete darkness and the film that may be left in the cassette is unlikely to be seen.

 

[fdonadio]

Can anybody recommend a safe and reliable way to split a 400' or 1000' roll into 100' rolls?

I had made a small, hand cranked machine, using parts sourced from several different places.

The spindle where the 400’-rolls went had a spindle that kept some tension. This spindle is designed for thermal-transfer label printers.

It worked OK, but had to be operated in total darkness and totally manually.

 

[fdonadio]

film cassettes are often loaded into the processing machinery in complete darkness

Even for E6? At least in Brazil, where I used to live, E6 was done manually and the people at the counter would ask all kinds of questions about the film, even using a film retriever to see it, should they be suspicious…

 

[MattKing]

Even for E6? At least in Brazil, where I used to live, E6 was done manually and the people at the counter would ask all kinds of questions about the film, even using a film retriever to see it, should they be suspicious…

Even for E6. The lab I use often runs several E6 runs each business day in their moderately large capacity dip and dunk line.

 

[fdonadio]

Even for E6. The lab I use often runs several E6 runs each business day in their moderately large capacity dip and dunk line.

Cool. The only fairly good lab that used to process E6 in São Paulo used to run it every other day. Then, they started doing it twice a week. Then, Fuji stopped selling E6 chemistry in Brazil and they stopped doing it altogether.

Now, the only “option” is this guy that runs a lab in the back of his house and uses plain B&W dev as 1st dev and RA4 dev as the color dev. Dmax is really lacking, colors are not really great and stability is unknown.