35mm Ektachrome 100 bulk availability

[AgX]

Someone may import Fuji chemicals on his own or make E-6 baths from scratch. Both necessitates the respective revenue...

 

[mohmad khatab]

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I wrote the 4/22 to give me a purchase date that was visible on the can.

Congratulation
How much did you spend to get that reel?

 

[fdonadio]

Someone may import Fuji chemicals on his own or make E-6 baths from scratch. Both necessitates the respective revenue...

That was kinda my point. It seems there is not enough demand.

 

[Donald Qualls]

How much did you spend to get that reel?

Not to answer for him, but the last 120 m roll of Ektrachrome I saw was about US$650 before tax and shipping -- around 50% more than Vision3 in the same roll length.

 

[pbromaghin]

Donald's price is from B&H. From the link in AgX's post #91 in this thread, direct order price from Kodak:

KODAK EKTACHROME 100D Color Reversal Film 5294 35 mm KODAK EKTACHROME 100D Color Reversal Film 7294 16 mm Perforated One Edge Perforated Two Edges Super 8 Film for Cartridge Movie Cameras  Finish-to-Order (FTO) catalog number. Sold only in specific minimum order quantities or multiples of the minimum order quantities; non-returnable; US and Canada delivery time of approximately 3 weeks from receipt of purchase order. Other restrictions may apply. Contact your local Kodak representative for additional information.

KODAK EKTACHROME 100D Color Reversal Film 5294 / SP718 / 35 mm x 400 ft roll / U Core / BH-1866 7493331 1 1+ $520.00 02/04/2022
KODAK EKTACHROME 100D Color Reversal Film 5294 / SP718 / 35 mm x 1000 ft roll / U Core / BH-1866 7493349 1 1+ $1300.00 02/04/2022

 

[Paul Howell]

Wondering, if someone with a Noritsu E 6 process, in the dark, total dark, could fool the sensor to run the leader card attached to a stand with the exposed reel, with the cover open, have a take up spool on the exit and wind the film as it is processed. I've never used IR goggles in the dark room, I think standard E 6 is blind to IR?

 

[Donald Qualls]

Nice, @pbromaghin -- now will Kodak ship a single camera roll? And what shipping charge (B&H would be free shipping due to over $50).

 

[pbromaghin]

Nope, but B&H will sell you 400ft in single rolls for $1,400, enough to get the free shipping.

 

[Donald Qualls]

@pbromaghin I think you're looking at the 1000 foot rolls. As noted above, the $650 or so I recalled for 400 feet from a recent check was B&H.

 

[pbromaghin]

@pbromaghin I think you're looking at the 1000 foot rolls. As noted above, the $650 or so I recalled for 400 feet from a recent check was B&H.

I guess I misunderstood what you meant by "single camera roll". I thought you meant 36 exp roll. If you meant a single 400ft roll, yes the minimum Kodak order quantity is 1.

 

[Donald Qualls]

the minimum Kodak order quantity is 1.

Useful to know, then, as shipping seems unlikely to run to $200.

 

[YoIaMoNwater]

So no one else in the UK want to split a 400 ft roll?

 

[Minolta93]

I would potentially consider buying a 100ft roll from someone here. I'm not sure yet, though. I have never loaded bulk film before.

 

[willfrancis]

From my part, cost-wise I would be able to commit to 100ft, perhaps 200ft depending on how many others were keen to chip in. However, I don’t have the facility to split the 400ft master roll down, which I suspect will be the key issue. Anyone U.K.-based have a 3D printer?

 

[pbromaghin]

From my part, cost-wise I would be able to commit to 100ft, perhaps 200ft depending on how many others were keen to chip in. However, I don’t have the facility to split the 400ft master roll down, which I suspect will be the key issue. Anyone U.K.-based have a 3D printer?

Sure you do, see post #66. I use it because I got 1200 ft of expired Vision2 for practically nothing, and it works great. I personally won't be buying any 400ft rolls of fresh stuff because I don't want to spend that much money at one time. Since Vision3 is available in 100 ft, I'll stick to these for color. Other than that I'm pretty much quitting color in 120.

 

[YoIaMoNwater]

Sure you do, see post #66. I use it because I got 1200 ft of expired Vision2 for practically nothing, and it works great. I personally won't be buying any 400ft rolls of fresh stuff because I don't want to spend that much money at one time. Since Vision3 is available in 100 ft, I'll stick to these for color. Other than that I'm pretty much quitting color in 120.

If I send you the 400 ft roll and some empty spool in their canister, could you respool it for me? This way whoever else want to chip in can.

 

[mohmad khatab]

I got 1200 ft of expired Vision2 f

Congratulations, this is really amazing and interesting,,,
How did you get that huge pulley? And how much does it cost?

 

[YoIaMoNwater]

Kodak UK Order just got back to me and it’s £480 for the 400ft bulk roll. That’s a pretty damn good deal considering a single roll is like £20 now.

 

[Donald Qualls]

Kodak UK Order just got back to me and it’s £480 for the 400ft bulk roll. That’s a pretty damn good deal considering a single roll is like £20 now.

That's the exact point of buying bulk rolls. That's about the same price per cassette as Tri-X or T-Max 100 in bulk rolls. If you can process your own, it makes shooting Ektachrome competitive with shooting ProImage 100, or Gold 200.

 

[pbromaghin]

Congratulations, this is really amazing and interesting,,,
How did you get that huge pulley? And how much does it cost?

It was several years ago, right near the end of easy availability of movie industry surpluses, so the economic situation has change a quite a bit. Somebody here on APUG was selling a really large pile of cinema short-ends and recans that he bought somewhere. It was about $15 per 400ft. Ron Mowrey (PhotoEngineer) was always adamant that processing ECN2 in C41 was not a good idea, so 3 cans of Vision2 250D have been sitting unused in my fridge, waiting for me to figure out how to process them. It all came together when the QWD processing kit popped up at Freestyle. I was well on my way to abandoning color completely until discovering the QWD option, along with Vision3 being available in 100ft on UltrafineOnline.com

 

[pbromaghin]

If I send you the 400 ft roll and some empty spool in their canister, could you respool it for me? This way whoever else want to chip in can.

Sorry, I don't think so. It's so easy to do yourself, there's no reason for trans-Atlantic complications.

 

[pbromaghin]

That's the exact point of buying bulk rolls. That's about the same price per cassette as Tri-X or T-Max 100 in bulk rolls. If you can process your own, it makes shooting Ektachrome competitive with shooting ProImage 100, or Gold 200.

Donald, what I can't figure out about home E6 replenishment processing is how to make it viable at the low volume of an amateur without the chemicals going bad. Or are you talking about a kit?

 

[perkeleellinen]

So no one else in the UK want to split a 400 ft roll?

From my part, cost-wise I would be able to commit to 100ft, perhaps 200ft depending on how many others were keen to chip in. However, I don’t have the facility to split the 400ft master roll down, which I suspect will be the key issue. Anyone U.K.-based have a 3D printer?

I'm keen here. Can commit to 100ft but have no facilities for splitting or even spooling presently.

 

[Donald Qualls]

Donald, what I can't figure out about home E6 replenishment processing is how to make it viable at the low volume of an amateur without the chemicals going bad. Or are you talking about a kit?

First developer can be very cheap, even if you don't/can't replenish it (I've seen pictures of what looked like good results with Rodinal 1:25, 15 minutes at 40 C, though it was full strip images, not frame scans). Color developer is the one that costs, and I've done C-41 (Flexicolor LORR) replenishment at only 2-3 rolls a month with good results through a liter of replenisher (most of a year). Bleach and fixer you just reuse to capacity (even C-41 chemicals will work here). Question is whether you can get a replenished system color developer for E-6, more than whether it's practical to do. Mixing your own is one way; there are published formulae, but I understand some of the chemicals are hard to source or have impractically large minimum orders.

Kits are an option, and still cost a lot less than sending your film out, but what I'm planning to try is getting just the color developer (I ordered from Cinestill, in transit, around $1.50 per roll at their listed capacity), use Parodinal for first dev and Flexicolor C-41 bleach, fixer, and final rinse (I'll order in some formalin if it seems I need it for stabilizer; my darkroom is well ventilated). If this works well with expired 35 mm and 120 films I have, I'll try it on the fresh box of 4x5 E100 I just got, and it that works well too, I'll try to get either a short end, recan, or next year's tax refund will go for a 400' roll of Ektachrome.

 

[mohmad khatab]

It was several years ago, right near the end of easy availability of movie industry surpluses, so the economic situation has change a quite a bit. Somebody here on APUG was selling a really large pile of cinema short-ends and recans that he bought somewhere. It was about $15 per 400ft. Ron Mowrey (PhotoEngineer) was always adamant that processing ECN2 in C41 was not a good idea, so 3 cans of Vision2 250D have been sitting unused in my fridge, waiting for me to figure out how to process them. It all came together when the QWD processing kit popped up at Freestyle. I was well on my way to abandoning color completely until discovering the QWD option, along with Vision3 being available in 100ft on UltrafineOnline.com

I wish you all the best and success.
If someday you thought of giving it up for one reason or another, I can buy it from you, I need it so much in the Egyptian analog community.
I hope you will accept my regards