110/16mm Camera Image Quality

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That is interesting Donald. In my 25 years wandering Minolta 16 land I personally have never seen a tripod/cable release combo for the 16II. I’ve custom made a couple that attach to the tripod clamp, but never come across a factory setup.
My home made attachments are over built and make the petite 16II into a Rube Goldberg monstrosity. But hey, it don’t matter much if you are going to use ‘B’ anyway because you will probably have it on a tripod.
 

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Now I think about it, I might be misremembering -- it's been more than ten years since I've used my 16II and I bought the clamp but never used it -- perhaps because it wouldn't make much difference without a cable release.
 
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I haven't looked closely at the wall thickness on the Minolta cartridge; it may or may not be thick enough to work with black PLA without additional light masking.

A vintage minolta cassette film chamber has a thickness of ~1.1mm and ~0.5mm around the cap area. The 3D printed, unfelted cassettes I got from FPP are marginally beefier at ~1.6mm and ~0.8mm. Otherwise light-tight, those tolerances leave very little room for felt in the mouths of the film chambers to squelch light leaks and potential scratches from the chamber lip's (rather prominent at this scale) ridge artifacts. I've used repurposed felt from a 35mm canister so maybe there are thinner options out there.



MG-s, Double-X, HC-110
 

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What a blockhead.

Nice shot.
 
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Only way it could have been better would have been a well-placed sprocket hole. He managed to set up quickly enough to get a long 3/4 telephoto shot of me walking away, a bit of b-roll that ended up in the finished piece.
 
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I had no idea those Mamiya 16s were so small.

Got a picture of your printed slitter? I'm kinda looking for one.
 

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I had no idea those Mamiya 16s were so small.

Got a picture of your printed slitter? I'm kinda looking for one.
I thought I'd take a group photo of the slitter and film cassettes once I've completed them (one more cassette to go). Meanwhile, here's the Thingiverse page:
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2103954
No real documentation to speak of, and unless double-edged shaving razor blades fit that bolt pattern, I have no idea what kind of blades the designer had in mind, and the only thing I found at my (USA) hardware store which came close were Stanley carpet blades #11-525 snapped in half lengthwise. Larger bolts are M6 size, and smaller one for hinge is M2.5.

Most ingenious film slitter that I've seen to date was made from nothing more than a matchbox and a couple of hobby knife blades! Wish I could remember where I saw that, think it was old-school Soviet resourcefulness.
 

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I made on with a disposable camera and some razors. Worked pretty well but maybe not so safe.
 

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I make all my slitters from wood and double edged razor blades held together with 8-32 screws and knurled nuts. The wood blocks are cut on my table saw to 15.5mm thickness with each side to fill out to 35mm film wide then sides to act as a channel for the film.
Kind of hard to describe in words. My last one cuts a 15.7mm plus 9.2mm strips from 35mm film to feed both my Minox IIIs and Minolta 16 cameras. This leaves no waste from 35mm, except the perfed strips which are useless anyway. There is 25mm between the perforations on the Ilford Pan F film I’m using, *just* enough room to get the two strips.
 

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I also have a film slitter design on Thingiverse, designed to use #11 X-acto type blades, and to cut either three 16mm strips or a 127 and a 16 mm strip from 120. I've printed it, but haven't yet cut any film with it.
 

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3D printing is done. I used a small entry-level printer by Monoprice (Mini Delta), given to me as a secondhand gift a couple of years ago. I think the designer of the cassettes didn't anticipate using any light trap material at all, as the opening is only about 1 mm - too thick for light trap material recycled from an old Ilford 35mm cassette or craft-store felt, but still wide enough to admit stray light. I'll treat the cassettes as light-leaky for now (16 mm film scraps used for this photo).
 

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Some cameras don't like the Vision3 stocks. Too thick.
 

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I got 10 Kodak Fling cameras for sale in the classified in my film ad. The 110 film in them is useless (I developed one) but the cameras can be reloaded and actually take decent pics in bright light!

I got 10 Kodak Fling cameras for sale in the classified in my film ad. The 110 film in them is useless (I developed one) but the cameras can be reloaded and actually take decent pics in bright light, as seen above.
But the film cartridges can be reloaded by those who know how, so if anyone needs 10 110 film cartridges to reload, with the bonus of coming with 10 cameras..
 

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Maybe...

Auto 110, Tri-X

 

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What do you like about Vision 3? I hadn't thought to try that or any other motion-picture film for stills.

It's ok. Very grainy but it has loads and loads of latitude. I like it most because I can get shortends cheap and I shoot it for pennies a roll.
 
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Excellent use of footage; 3 or more frames and you've got a movie

Some cropped copy from the Mg-s. Dat typesetting.

 
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Snagged a 16ii for $20 also containing a cassette of unprocessed plus-x 100. Looks to have been exposed some time in the mid-70's.

Minolta 16ii, Plus-X (found film)
Xtol 1+1 8', anti-fog



A drag race, fuel filters, and a gggghost?!
 
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