They are missing to whole point. They are not seeing to reason for using E6.
Hehe, but you need to have them mounted, which not many labs still do.
My local lab that has started to offer it not long ago does E-6 processing for 12/13€ / roll, not too bad, compared to 4€ ( C-41 ) and 8€ ( B&W )
The bad part is the slide mounts, for a 36 exposure roll, the slide mounts cost 11€ !
I may just start to mount them myself, it's not that hard.
E6 films were never, ever restricted to, or solely for projecting... So entrenched populist opinion would have use believe that "slides are only for projecting!", but it has never been the case at all — certainly not among professionals in the craft or even advanced amateurs in Clubs and Groups!
Mounting of slides is vanishingly rare here, and even frowned upon. Certainly, professionals do not specify mounting because it complicate and slows down filing and print processes.
What puzzles me is some photographers use slide film, do not own nor intend to own a projector, but insist on slides coming back cut and mounted and even get very aggro when such a service is not offered! Really, if you do not have a projector, nor an intention to get a projector, the slides do not require cutting or mounting, just stripping to lines of 6, put them in a poly sleeve and file them. Why is this so hard to understand? The least people could do is invest in a lightbox to get some enjoyment from the viewing of the finished photograph.
I don't have a projector but i enjoy viewing slides on my PanaVue viewer and on the little lightbox i have, first on my list is a proper loupe for slide viweing with 8x or 10x magnification.Mounting of slides is vanishingly rare here, and even frowned upon. Certainly, professionals do not specify mounting because it complicate and slows down filing and print processes.
What puzzles me is some photographers use slide film, do not own nor intend to own a projector, but insist on slides coming back cut and mounted and even get very aggro when such a service is not offered! Really, if you do not have a projector, nor an intention to get a projector, the slides do not require cutting or mounting, just stripping to lines of 6, put them in a poly sleeve and file them. Why is this so hard to understand? The least people could do is invest in a lightbox to get some enjoyment from the viewing of the finished photograph.
"They" are??
E6 films were never, ever restricted to, or solely for projecting. People commonly did use slide film just for projecting, but outside of what was widely assumed and taken as its one and only purpose, so very few people were aware of the many other uses for it, not for that matter did an equal number care.If people wanted prints from slides, it was in the distant past a slow, expensive and grossly unsatisfactory process, especially from kiosks. This problem only turned people off it. So entrenched populist opinion would have use believe that "slides are only for projecting!", but it has never been the case at all — certainly not among professionals in the craft or even advanced amateurs in Clubs and Groups!
What we are doing is just carrying on the way E6 films were used for print production before digital e.g. photogravure, magazine cover and page production, and particularly the way things were done in the Ilfochrome Classic print process. And printing today is far better in quality, methodology and process than it ever was in the past. I am aware of a great many photographers involved at the moment in RA-4 printing from E6 material, some coming from digital backgrounds into a sort of film renaissance.
But they were designed for projection and that is the crucial point.
Some other uses need the special characteristics too, others not.
That professionals used them outside their intended use does not make such use technically more sound.
Does any lab mount 120 film? I don't know of any and I have to say cutting, cleaning and mounting into glass mounts is by far the worst part of the whole process, getting all 6 surfaces spotlessly clean is a real PITA.
I can't remember that anyone stated here : " E6 is only for projection"
The reason so few people actually use E6 films is because of what I mentiobned -- an entrenched belief that all you do with them is make slides for projection. They don't know, or don't want to hear about, how beautiful prints are created from slides. When I mentioned this to a long-time photograrpher yesterday, he looked blankly at me: "you can print from slides??" So you may not remember anybody saying E6 is only for projection, but that is what the majority want to believe. The minority on the other hand love swinging from the monkey bars and having a bloody good time with Fuji-san.
When I worked in camera stores I would tell people other ways they could use slides. For decades after I would mention it to other photographers. Obviously I either did not tell enough people or they did not listen.
I don't deny you would have done what any great salesman would have done. They probably thought the other things to do with slides were too much of a chore when it could be done so much faster with negative film (as is still the very widely held belief!
The reason so few people actually use E6 films is because of what I mentioned -- an entrenched belief that all you do with them is make slides for projection. That would have been the popular thing to do "way back when". They don't know, or don't want to hear about, how beautiful prints are created from slides. Actually, I have seen it written here by peopel that E6 is only for projection. When I mentioned the print production aspect of this to a long-time photographer yesterday, he looked blankly at me: "you can print from slides??"
So you may not remember anybody saying E6 is only for projection (I do!), but that is what the majority want to believe. The minority on the other hand love swinging from the monkey bars and having a bloody good time with Fuji-san!
But 4 x 5 inch in E6 is realy funny. Of cause then it is just to print from it.
If Cibachrome were still around, I'd instantly go back to large format E6 chromes.
Yes. Unless you can prove there is a 4x5 projector? Well presently we can drop a 4x5 sheet onto an iPad AIR tablet screen which has the "Lightbox" app installed (this works a treat for on-the-fly viewing!) and there you have it: instant life and glamour for the much-maligned 4x5... Funnily, people not involved in photography have no idea what they are looking at when I demonstrate this (I have only a few surviving sheets of 4x5 from my 3 year dabble in that format in the mid-1990s).
Now, in the early 1990s 4x5 transparency film was used to produce giant murals that decorated the foyer walls of the Victoria-Tasmania Spirit of Tasmania overnight ferry. These were rainforest shots, made on a Linhof Master Technika by a specialist landscape photographer, and printed to LED backlit display panels. For years and years travellers were gobsmacked and enthralled at the spectacle, almost 30 metres long. About 5 years ago both ferries were extensively overhauled and modernised and the fate of the rainforest murals is not known.
I have never seen a 4x5 projector, and only vaguely remember one for 6x6!
There were and there still are 4x5 and even larger projectors.
There are automatic slide magazines for even much bigger slides, up to 10x10".Yes - INDEED - but there might be no
"magazine based system"
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