Film Ferrania p30

[Scott Micciche]

It is not necessary to use D-96. This developer was designed for cine film which is to be printed on contrasty positive stock. Any developer will work with p30. For example I typically develop Eastman Double-X in HC-110 or Rodinal with great results.

Correct, however I wanted to use a fine-grain developer and it was on the list for use with continuous agitation. It worked very well in fact.

 

[pbromaghin]

Shot at box speed. Developed in D76 1:1 at 20c for 13 min, small tank with 5 agitations every 30 seconds.

Black rebar with yellow markings

Typical American red landscape blocks.

Yellow hydrant.

 

[miha]

Did anyone try to print it?

 

[chassis]

Shot at box speed. Developed in D76 1:1 at 20c for 13 min, small tank with 5 agitations every 30 seconds.

Black rebar with yellow markings
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Typical American red landscape blocks.
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Yellow hydrant.
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Really great!

 

[Mackinaw]

Shot on Sunday. EI of 80. Developed in D-76 for 7 minutes at 68 degrees, agitation ten times/ minute. Incident might meter.

Jim B.

 

[pbromaghin]

Mackinaw, what color is her dress?

 

[Mackinaw]

Mackinaw, what color is her dress?

Black with burgundy inlay (the lighter splotches you see on the dress).

Jim B.

 

[Don Harpold]

"Shot at box speed. Developed in D76 1:1 at 20c for 13 min, small tank with 5 agitations every 30 seconds"
"Shot on Sunday. EI of 80. Developed in D-76 for 7 minutes at 68 degrees, agitation ten times/ minute. Incident might meter"

Does this seem strange? could it be a different dilution?
Both look great, just wondering

 

[Jeff L]

"Shot at box speed. Developed in D76 1:1 at 20c for 13 min, small tank with 5 agitations every 30 seconds"
"Shot on Sunday. EI of 80. Developed in D-76 for 7 minutes at 68 degrees, agitation ten times/ minute. Incident might meter"

Does this seem strange? could it be a different dilution?
Both look great, just wondering

I believe one is D76 1:1 and the other is D76 stock solution. Yes, different dilutions.

 

[Mackinaw]

"Shot at box speed. Developed in D76 1:1 at 20c for 13 min, small tank with 5 agitations every 30 seconds"
"Shot on Sunday. EI of 80. Developed in D-76 for 7 minutes at 68 degrees, agitation ten times/ minute. Incident might meter"

Does this seem strange? could it be a different dilution?
Both look great, just wondering

I developed my pic (of the gal in the dress) in D76 straight, no dilution.

Jim B.

 

[aparat]

Shot on Sunday. EI of 80. Developed in D-76 for 7 minutes at 68 degrees, agitation ten times/ minute. Incident might meter.

Jim B.

This is a fantastic photo. I am, once again, seeing a certain richness and beautiful tonality. Yes, I know it's hard to tell from a scan on a computer screen, etc., but, nevertheless, your photo shows off the film's potential really well to me.

 

[Don Harpold]

I developed my pic (of the gal in the dress) in D76 straight, no dilution.

Jim B.

Thanks Jim
makes sense now

 

[schyter]

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[Ces1um]

P30 shot at box speed with a Voigtlander Bessa R3M. Developer: Patterson dental x-ray developer, 28 C. Fixer: Patterson dental x-ray fixer, 28 C. Processed using a dentx basic 810 dental xray processor. Total transit time through developer/fixer/dryer: 4.5 min. Stop bath: water only and only after fixation.

 

[chassis]

Ces1um, really great!

 

[MattKing]

I'm willing to bet that Ferrania didn't do tests using a dental X-ray processor!

 

[bvy]

Thank you, the light was kind to me, late evening low sun must have been about 9pm. It's worth the wait, a distinct character to this film, next roll in Pyrocat HD I think. I didn't shoot brackets to see how that reacts either. They do say not to use motor drive but my F100 was fine, single shot only mode.

Welcome back everyone. So let's talk about this. I think I get it now. One roll through my F100 was fine, the second one auto-rewound about two thirds of the way in. I didn't catch the frame number and have no desire to pull the leader and advance to some arbitrary point and risk multiple exposures. So I'll develop as is. A pity to lose those frames though.

Must be something about the cassettes. But it seems to be valid advice!

 

[pbromaghin]

Ferrania recommends manual winders only. No powered.

 

[pentaxuser]

Ferrania recommends manual winders only. No powered.

That's a major drawback, surely, for those of us who have auto-wind cameras and there may be many in that category. I wonder what it is about the film that makes it unfriendly to auto-winders. First time I heard of any film having this problem.

By the way your shots, now we have migrated to Photrio look so much clearer and sharper. That is not to say they were bad before - they were not but this seems to be on another level . I don't think I had seen Ces1um's shots under the old APUG systems to compare but I suspect that they are clearer also.

It might be just me of course, expecting things to be better now we are in the new era of APUG but digging into my subconscious I don't think I had such expectations. Anyone else noticed this effect?

pentaxuser.

 

[faberryman]

news > Dead Link Removed

It is a little disingenuous for them to say that they went from zero to P30 in nine months. They began working on the project in 2012, two years before they did their Kickstarter in 2014, so its more like zero to P30 in five years. I wish them luck though.

 

[twelvetone12]

I finally got my P30, just in line for the PHOTRIO opening! I must have been some of the last on the list...

 

[Anon Ymous]

Welcome back everyone. So let's talk about this. I think I get it now. One roll through my F100 was fine, the second one auto-rewound about two thirds of the way in. I didn't catch the frame number and have no desire to pull the leader and advance to some arbitrary point and risk multiple exposures. So I'll develop as is. A pity to lose those frames though.

Must be something about the cassettes. But it seems to be valid advice!

Any chance that the cassettes had dx coded 24 frames for this film and the camera rewinded automatically?

 

[Arctic amateur]

That's a major drawback, surely, for those of us who have auto-wind cameras and there may be many in that category. I wonder what it is about the film that makes it unfriendly to auto-winders. First time I heard of any film having this problem.

To quote the "Best practices" document:

We have seen some motorized cameras break the film, especially less-expensive point-and-shoot cameras from the 80s and 90s. We really think it’s best to use a fully manual, non-motorized camera.​

I leave it to people who know film-making (i.e. not me) to make inferences.

 

[bvy]

Any chance that the cassettes had dx coded 24 frames for this film and the camera rewinded automatically?

Nope. The DX code comes taped over. I developed the film and got 21 shots.

To quote the "Best practices" document:

We have seen some motorized cameras break the film, especially less-expensive point-and-shoot cameras from the 80s and 90s. We really think it’s best to use a fully manual, non-motorized camera.​

I leave it to people who know film-making (i.e. not me) to make inferences.

That's a different problem then, and the F100 is hardly a less expensive point and shoot. Anyway, could be just a fluke or bad luck for me. Could be the camera too, but I doubt it.

 

[pbromaghin]

That's a major drawback, surely, for those of us who have auto-wind cameras and there may be many in that category. I wonder what it is about the film that makes it unfriendly to auto-winders. First time I heard of any film having this problem.

By the way your shots, now we have migrated to Photrio look so much clearer and sharper. That is not to say they were bad before - they were not but this seems to be on another level . I don't think I had seen Ces1um's shots under the old APUG systems to compare but I suspect that they are clearer also.

It might be just me of course, expecting things to be better now we are in the new era of APUG but digging into my subconscious I don't think I had such expectations. Anyone else noticed this effect?

pentaxuser.

I think you're right. The highlights on the sides of the big square blocks don't look as blown out. The hydrant chains have more detail. Overall, I think all 3 are a bit darker.