110/16mm Camera Image Quality

[ic-racer]

 

[ic-racer]

 

[ic-racer]

 

[Bronson Dugnutt]

 

[awty]

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Excellent pictures and use of the media Mr Racer

 

[Cholentpot]

This one is Minolta 16mm on Kodak Cine film. Again the image is printed small on an 8x10 sheet.
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This one stands out.

 

[Huss]

This one is Minolta 16mm on Kodak Cine film. Again the image is printed small on an 8x10 sheet.
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I like that! And the other images. I need to get back to shooting 110 - have lots of it in my freezer.

 

[jbrubaker]

I've been shooting Minox again in the last week or so. I discovered that my LX needed service, so sent it to DAG and picked up a Minox C on Ebay for $75. Much to my delight it was in nice condition and with a fresh battery it works just fine. I also have a couple of Minox EC that are still working.

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[qqphot]

Wow, those are really impressively sharp and full of detail!

 

[Donald Qualls]

Wish my 35 mm scans looked that good. Maybe I need to get a Minox and some cassettes and a slitter...

 

[xkaes]

I've been shooting Minox again in the last week or so. I discovered that my LX needed service, so sent it to DAG and picked up a Minox C on Ebay for $75.

That's great to hear that DAG is still available. I'm sure he is as busy as ever. Years ago he tuned up my Minox IIIs.

And a Minox is always a good idea, but it doesn't have to be a Minox because there are so many others to choose from. In fact, some of the Minox were not made by Minox -- so you might find them more easily under other names. But just like any other type of camera, there are so many to choose from with so many different options, you can easily end up with more than you thought you would. At least that's my excuse for why I have three of them -- and I'm still on the look-out for a Sharan Olympus Pen FT at a decent price.

http://www.subclub.org/shop/minlike.htm

 

[jbrubaker]

Wish my 35 mm scans looked that good. Maybe I need to get a Minox and some cassettes and a slitter...

Hi Don, For scanning I'm using a Nikon Z7 with 50mm macro + 2 ext. tubes. This setup works better than any scanner I've had in the past. It works great for 35mm and 120 also (without the ext. tubes).

 

[Donald Qualls]

@jbrubaker I will not buy a DSLR to scan my negatives. I spent $1100 last year for a V850, it works fine at optical 4800 ppi or less for 35 mm and larger, around 34 Mp -- that'd get up to about 8.5 from a 110 or Kiev 30 frame, or around 3.5 from a Minox. I do have (access to) a D90, so with a suitable macro setup that makes full (APS-C) frame, I could approach 12 Mp from anything -- just haven't seen the need up to now.

No, it's the film that doesn't look that good, mostly (and can't, since I shoot mostly .EDU Ultra 400; it's just not in the same grain and sharpness class as TMX). Maybe I need to start shooting CMS 20 II or Copex Rapid in my Weltini and Kiev 2 and Nikkormat.

 

[jbrubaker]

No, it's the film that doesn't look that good, mostly (and can't, since I shoot mostly .EDU Ultra 400; it's just not in the same grain and sharpness class as TMX). Maybe I need to start shooting CMS 20 II or Copex Rapid in my Weltini and Kiev 2 and Nikkormat.

For 35mm, I've been getting good results with Kentmere 400 developed in Legacy Pro L110 1:31. This is a cheap and convenient combination that works well for me.

 

[Donald Qualls]

I've been getting good results with Kentmere 400 developed in Legacy Pro L110 1:31.

Oh, I'm getting perfectly fine results from Ultra/Foma 400 -- there's just no kind of expectation it'll be similar in any way to TMX. Beyond that, of course, none of the lenses for 35 mm are built on the expectation of always using only an 8x11 frame. They simply have no reason to be that sharp.

 

[Huss]

I've been shooting Minox again in the last week or so. I discovered that my LX needed service, so sent it to DAG and picked up a Minox C on Ebay for $75. Much to my delight it was in nice condition and with a fresh battery it works just fine. I also have a couple of Minox EC that are still working.

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Super results! How do you shoot Tmax in your Minox?
FYI I also use a z7 to scan my film.

 

[jbrubaker]

Super results! How do you shoot Tmax in your Minox?
FYI I also use a z7 to scan my film.

I have a home-made film slitter and a bulk roll of Tmax 100 film. I recently tried some Acros 100 in the Minox, but I think I like the Tmax better. I'm always looking for fine grain + decent iso speed. There are some really fine grain films in the iso 25 range, but that's too slow for hand held shooting. I'm getting old and not as steady as I used to be. I try to keep my shutter speeds at 1/125 or faster. ---john.

 

[xkaes]

I'm not that steady either, but because most "Minox" cameras only use the lens wide open, getting a fast shutter speed with slow film is usually not a problem in brightly lit scenes:

DAYLIGHT + ISO 25 = 1/30 @ f16 = 1/500 @ f4.

For daylight scenes, I use Afgapan 25 @ ISO 12 in my Minox IIIs -- pretty grain free. For lower light scenes, I usually go for my Minolta MG-s with Ilford HP-5. The negative is more than twice the size so the grain is still pretty minimal.

 

[Patrick Robert James]

I thought this thread was a dedicated 110/16mm one?

I have tons of Minox images. I've been shooting Minox (I own 5 now) for the last few years off and on, mostly on. My Instagram is full of them.

 

[jbrubaker]

I'm not that steady either, but because most "Minox" cameras only use the lens wide open, getting a fast shutter speed with slow film is usually not a problem in brightly lit scenes:

DAYLIGHT + ISO 25 = 1/30 @ f16 = 1/500 @ f4.

For daylight scenes, I use Afgapan 25 @ ISO 12 in my Minox IIIs -- pretty grain free. For lower light scenes, I usually go for my Minolta MG-s with Ilford HP-5. The negative is more than twice the size so the grain is still pretty minimal.

Yes, full sunlight is not a problem, but now that fall/winter is taking over here in Michigan I can look forward to months of very cloudy days.

 

[jbrubaker]

I thought this thread was a dedicated 110/16mm one?

I'm sorry if Minox format isn't part of the 16mm/110 group but this thread is the closest one to post in. After all, these are all 'subminiature' camera variations. I also have a variety of 16mm and 110 cameras to work with. I just enjoy the Minox's the most. I bought my first Minox B at age 16 over 50 years ago. ---john.

 

[ic-racer]

I thought this thread was a dedicated 110/16mm one?

I have tons of Minox images. I've been shooting Minox (I own 5 now) for the last few years off and on, mostly on. My Instagram is full of them.

I'd share them here.
Actually we'd need to have a separate sub-forum for "mini and submini", because this thread is actually under "Low-Fi" cameras, and the whole point of the thread is the 16mm and Minox cameras are NOT Low-Fi.

 

[xkaes]

The SUB-FORUM categories are rather problematic, because, for example, there is a 35mm SUB-FORUM and a Rangefinder SUB-FORUM which, of course, are not mutually exclusive. And there is no place for smaller formats -- Tessina (which uses 35mm film), half-frame (the same), 17.5mm (Hit, etc.), 16mm, 110, Minox, etc.
So we do the best we can.

 

[Huss]

I thought this thread was a dedicated 110/16mm one?

I have tons of Minox images. I've been shooting Minox (I own 5 now) for the last few years off and on, mostly on. My Instagram is full of them.

I'd be happy to see any of the tiny formats in this thread. Post your Minox images!

 

[Patrick Robert James]

Minox B, Eastman XX, Rodinal