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I mean, I like contrast...
also, the film's got similar dev. times to hp5 so I could use that as a starting point.
(hp5- 6 min 1:25, UN54- 6.5 min 1:25)
I don't have any dev times for rodinal. I have pushed un54 in the past successfully but didn't like the results beyond 200 ISO. It gets very contrasty very quickly.
Not much grain at all. Maybe a 1/2 frame camera, or shoot with a 24mm and crop in?
thank you- I'll definitely consider this. though I'm thinking based on minimal research the average push limit is 3-4 stops over.A general "rule of thumb" for "push" development is 1.4 x normal development time for a 1-stop push, and doubling the normal time for a 2-stop push.
YMMV, of course.
Rodinal isn't considered a particularly good "push" developer, but... grain your goal is, grain get you will. (with a tip of the hat to Yoda)
For heavy grain, Tetenal Neofin was an alternative to Rodinal. Neofin has been discontinued, but Adox FX-39 II is based on a similiar formula by Beutler.
Adox does not recommend FX-39 II for ISO 400 and higher films due to the grain.
You could give it a try with Lomo Berlin or Bergger Pancro.
LFA Mason, Photographic Processing Chemistry,1975 p120:
"Graininess is also often worse at high pH values, due partly to the rapid development of the coarse grains and partly to the greater spread of the silver filaments into the much softer gelatin."
I have seen this adding sodium hydroxide to a metol sulfite developer, the grain gets larger. If too much is added the result is mottling.
Something I've been thinking recently, since I tend to prefer fine grained bw film photography, what would be the polar opposite? I ordered myself some Adox Rodinal, and I've got plans to test Film Washi F, Rollei Paul and Reinhold, and Lomo Berlin 400 (keep in mind I don't really have many opportunities to try delta or tmax 3200), but I'm wondering, is there a different combination of film and developer that would give me coarser results?
Main street Coopersville, MI my home town. My father was born there in 1924 on our farm. The last picture with the sign Del Shannon car show says it all. Chuck Westover (Del Shannon) taught my mom how to drive a 39 Ford with a stick shift by taking her out in a wheat stumble field and she learned from there. My folks and Del Shannons folks were very good friends.next test: FPP Derev pan 400 (99.9% confident this is Svema Foto 400) in 1:25.
Another one I am very satisfied with, and qualifies for push and lower dilution trials View attachment 412765 View attachment 412766 View attachment 412767View attachment 412768 View attachment 412769
Main street Coopersville, MI my home town. My father was born there in 1924 on our farm. The last picture with the sign Del Shannon car show says it all. Chuck Westover (Del Shannon) taught my mom how to drive a 39 Ford with a stick shift by taking her out in a wheat stumble field and she learned from there. My folks and Del Shannons folks were very good friends.
Yes, he lived just down the road from us in the country. I remember Chuck coming over to our house and he held his jeans up with braided binder twine from bailing hay and straw. No fancy leather belt for him. His dad Bert ran a road grader for Ottawa County Road Commission. His mom was a real character and always good for a laff. Ah, the good old days! Well, they seem like the good old days now, but things were pretty hard on some folks back then.Absolutely incredible.
Reticulation gives what appears to be coarse grain. I never had it happen to me but have seen some examples.
Also shooting half-frame gets you more grain.
The most grain I’ve ever had was Super-XX expired from the forties, exposed as low as the meter can go EI 2-4.
There’s a thread where I showed some of these examples.
Something I've been thinking recently, since I tend to prefer fine grained bw film photography, what would be the polar opposite? I ordered myself some Adox Rodinal, and I've got plans to test Film Washi F, Rollei Paul and Reinhold, and Lomo Berlin 400 (keep in mind I don't really have many opportunities to try delta or tmax 3200), but I'm wondering, is there a different combination of film and developer that would give me coarser results?
C41, or regular bw developer?
C41.
Yes, that has me puzzled too. Never had grain issues or more grain than normal with XP2. I rated it mostly at ISO 200 unless light fell to much and then would move my ASA/ISO dial to 400-800. Of course RezaLoghme uses 35mm and lab development I believe. Still, I wouldn't think grain should be an issue with either.That's really interesting - I've used a fair amount of XP2+ in 120 developed in C41 and it is one of the most grainless films I've used - especially in the highlights, which render in a unique way.
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