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I agree. I've been using Unidrums for my LF processing for at least ten years now. I even do C-41 in them and it works fine--I preheat the drum with hot water and it holds its heat for the required 3.5 minutes very nicely.
 
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When I get on the system its stored on I will be happy to post it here. What CAD do you use? I will post the actual model.

Update, I attached a DWG file.

 

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When I get on the system its stored on I will be happy to post it here. What CAD do you use? I will post the actual model.

Update, I attached a DWG file.
Nice,
thank you! I am using fusion 360 so DWG should be fine. In the meantime I gave it a shot myself, let's see if I measured everything correctly.
Any interest in a 3d model for the rubber seal? It can be printed in TPU or elastic resin (the latter is what I had done, still waiting for the piece to arrive in the mail)
Cheers!
 

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p.s.: I really want to make this work, I think this drum has a bunch of features that can make it superior - the insulation and the piston are just fantastic
 
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Sure, post your piston seal and I'll give it a try. I have several flexible filaments I can try.

Thanks
 

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and the STL file is attached
 

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I printed one and it was a tad small, does not quite seal. I have a NIB unidrum. I took the seal off and it is about the same size as the drum inner diameter ( slide fit ). Your part seems to be 91.5mm, The drum is closer to 92.5mm. I am printing a new seal at 92.5mm, will let you know how it works out.

92.5 was still too lose. I remeasured and will try 93.6 next
 
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93.75mm seems to work. I printed this one and it's water tight. Will need to run some film and see if it holds. I find that developer and fixer seem to leak more easily than just water.

 

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Thanks, Joel!
Interesting,I wonder if your drum is a tad larger than the Filmdrum II that I've been measuring.
Either that or I measure poorly (entirely possible)
will let you know once my print arrived
 
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Can you post a dwg for your seal, I want to pull one of the faces out a bit.
 

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seems like I can't export to DWG since I'm using the free maker's license. I can do f3d smt stp or usdz, lmk what works for you
 
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Can't use any of those. I'll get around to redrawing sometime. As it is the seal works, I did go to a full 94mm.
 
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I wanted to pull out the inner tapered face so that it will push out the sealing ring just a bit more.
 

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Maybe the PDF of the drawing works?
 

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uops forgot to update to 94mm
 

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I think that will help me redraw. But it is working well just bump out to 94mm. I did this just doing an X-Y scale, so everything increased in thickness and size a little bit. The seal I'm using is printed with 40D COEX TPE filament.
 
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Hi,

I just processed 2 sheets of 4x5 in the drum using the 3D printed rear seal. It was completely dribble free. The 94mm seal for some reason wanted to resist going in when it was in my film tent, all the other times I tried it, never had an issue. Perhaps just afraid of the dark.
 
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I redrew my cap to get rid of the faceting that was on the original. I printed this version and it is water tight on my drum.
 

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for the sake of the thread, I still haven't managed to have mine printed! But it seems like we have a working model now, which is fantastic. Hope that helps keep this drum alive!
 

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Hello all creative people - I just bought a Unicolor drum and the roller. The drum is all leaking and the seal cracked into pieces. Could you please help me with following (may be stupid) questions?
1. They said I can process photos(exposed paper) using this. Inside the drum it’s smooth surface. Is it true? Have I bought the wrong drum? I want to process the color prints, I already have a Paterson tank to develop reals.
2. Have you got any success with the 3D printed piston O’ring and the cap?

Thank you,
Mahesh
 
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