Kodak films direct from Eastman Kodak (was: Kodacolor 100. New)

[braxus]

I haven’t had a chance to test Lomo. Could you link your video? I would like to watch it.

 

[brbo]

Noticed that Kodacolor 100/200 are slowly making their way to Europe, too.

Fotoimpex has them listed (though not in stock at the moment). Price is slightly higher than ImagePro 100 and ColorPlus 200. Probably this film is also distributed directly by EK in Europe and not through KA since Nordfoto does not have them listed (as I understand they are the main KA distributer in continental Europe).

 

[Agulliver]

Stuck In Film, a UK supplier, is now selling these. But the £14.95 price tag suggests they've been specially imported from the USA rather than distributed by any official channels.

 

[brbo]

I shot a comparison of Kodak (Alaris) Pro Image, and Kodak (Eastman) Kodacolor 100 today. Grey Card and Macbeth charts, same camera, lens, in daylight. Processed in the same tank, printed together on some of the Endura I do most of my work prints and testing on.

Based on my results, I think they're different.

I wonder how much batch variation are we seeing when comparing Kodacolor/ProImage/Lomo CN 100...?

My test of them, side-by-side (Kodacolor 100 and Lomo CN 100 were shot with the same lens, ProImage 100 was not but I wouldn't say that the lens has a different colour rendering (both lenses are fairly modern).

Top: Lomography Color Negative 100
Middle: Kodak Kodacolor 100
Bottom: Kodak ProImage 100





This time, differences between Lomo CN 100 and ProImage 100 are less than in my previous test and differences between Kodacolor 100 and ProImage 100 show basically the same as @Aidan Sciortino's. It does seem that Kodakcolor 100 is neither ProImage 100 neither what is sold as Lomo CN 100.

 

[MattKing]

Looks like Gold 200 in 120 is on its way as well - from Photo System's website (operated for them by their distributor, Cinestill):

They also have the 35mm versions of Kodacolor and UltraMax: https://kodak.photosys.com/collections/eastman-kodak-still-film

 

[Aidan Sciortino]

Looks like Gold 200 in 120 is on its way as well - from Photo System's website (operated for them by their distributor, Cinestill):
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They also have the 35mm versions of Kodacolor and UltraMax: https://kodak.photosys.com/collections/eastman-kodak-still-film

Gold 200 in EK Packaging is available to order on B and H now as well.

Word on the street here in Rochester is we shouldn’t anticipate these new releases stopping anytime soon

 

[Samu]

Noticed that Kodacolor 100/200 are slowly making their way to Europe, too.

Fotoimpex has them listed (though not in stock at the moment). Price is slightly higher than ImagePro 100 and ColorPlus 200. Probably this film is also distributed directly by EK in Europe and not through KA since Nordfoto does not have them listed (as I understand they are the main KA distributer in continental Europe).

Fotoimpex had it in stock for less than a week, ans it was sold with strict limits on quantity per customer, Unless you are purchasing something else, the price per roll gets too high if you have tp pay for freight. Same problem is with Fuji slide films. When they have some, it is with a limit of maximum 2 or 3 rolls per customer. Probably these Kodak films will be available more freely in Europe in near future.

 

[Aidan Sciortino]

Fotoimpex had it in stock for less than a week, ans it was sold with strict limits on quantity per customer, Unless you are purchasing something else, the price per roll gets too high if you have tp pay for freight. Same problem is with Fuji slide films. When they have some, it is with a limit of maximum 2 or 3 rolls per customer. Probably these Kodak films will be available more freely in Europe in near future.

It is my understanding that Eastman is still working out the finer points of distribution, even here in the states. Fortunately, Alaris laid off a bunch of folks who were working in still film and EK was able to pick them up, so there’s some experience in-house, but I’d expect it to take some time.

 

[Cholentpot]

Gold 200 in EK Packaging is available to order on B and H now as well.

Word on the street here in Rochester is we shouldn’t anticipate these new releases stopping anytime soon

Kodachrome?

 

[BrianShaw]

Kodachrome?

Hopefully in 620 size...

 

[Cholentpot]

Hopefully in 620 size...

116

 

[George Mann]

116

Just make it available again already!

 

[Prest_400]

Let's see if/when the pro films are branded under EK.
An interesting one would be a Kodacolor/MAX/Ultramax 800. The product loaded into single use cameras and respooled by Lomo and Flic basically.

But as discussed elsewhere such as the one I link below, higher speed film costs more and P800 might be well cannibalised by a consumer film.
I'm probably repeating myself but 800-1600 CN film would fit rather well again nowadays. Higher speeds for P&S and low light use and folk do like grain and "vibes". And the shorter shelf life should be ok anyways.

https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/why-is-portra-800-most-expensive-portra.199726/post-2689586

 

[MultiFormat Shooter]

I'm probably repeating myself but 800-1600 CN film would fit rather well again nowadays. Higher speeds for P&S and low light use and folk do like grain and "vibes". And the shorter shelf life should be ok anyways.

I totally agree with you. If Kodak were to introduce a Portra 1600 with less grain, than the current Portra 800, they'd be "on to something." I know I'd use it. Unfortunately, I doubt it's high on the R&D priority list.

 

[Cholentpot]

Let's see if/when the pro films are branded under EK.
An interesting one would be a Kodacolor/MAX/Ultramax 800. The product loaded into single use cameras and respooled by Lomo and Flic basically.

But as discussed elsewhere such as the one I link below, higher speed film costs more and P800 might be well cannibalised by a consumer film.
I'm probably repeating myself but 800-1600 CN film would fit rather well again nowadays. Higher speeds for P&S and low light use and folk do like grain and "vibes". And the shorter shelf life should be ok anyways.

https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/why-is-portra-800-most-expensive-portra.199726/post-2689586

I can tell you that the vibe's folks don't care about shelf life. I don't and I'm not a vibes person.

 

[Prest_400]

I totally agree with you. If Kodak were to introduce a Portra 1600 with less grain, than the current Portra 800, they'd be "on to something." I know I'd use it. Unfortunately, I doubt it's high on the R&D priority list.

The left over Natura 1600 is going for crazy prices, which might mean more or less it being appreciated but there is also the discontinuation factor.
Not necessarily a Portra 1600 as a high end high performance film but something in the lines of Gold/Super Gold/Ektapress and covers that range nicely. Or even go a bit crazy with a 1600-3200 film (Konica?). But making Gold 200 in 120 had also interesting R&D challenges so exactly not much of a case; unless it also could be a MP film.
I've been in the hobby since 2008 but can't recall if or what high speed Kodak film might have been in the market.

Anyways, that Kodak CN 800 is very well possible assuming it's just not sold standalone as Kodak.

I can tell you that the vibe's folks don't care about shelf life. I don't and I'm not a vibes person.

Indeed, was loosely meant at that some extra grain, off colors and slight fogging add to the vibes!
OT: I had saved a thread with an interesting post by Ron Andrews about the deterioration of ISO 800+ during and past expiration; it goes fast. Interestingly previous (pre-2004) generations of that film wer less robust in this aspect.

 

[flavio81]

Looks like Gold 200 in 120 is on its way as well - from Photo System's website (operated for them by their distributor, Cinestill):

Wow!

It says KODAK not Kodacolor!!

KODAK film, now with zero alarisity! A big event in history!

 

[flavio81]

Not necessarily a Portra 1600 as a high end high performance film but something in the lines of Gold/Super Gold/Ektapress and covers that range nicely. Or even go a bit crazy with a 1600-3200 film (Konica?).

I have used Kodak Supra 800 in the past. Excellent film, and better for tungsten/indoor lighting than (Fuji) Superia 800.

On the other hand Superia 1600 was excellent, easily my favorite C41 film ever.