I thought the three smiles were enough to indicate that I knew the 120 is still in the "eagerly anticipated" category ...
You guys... I know our updates are long, but it is my hope that at least APUG folks will read the whole thing. In the update, we said the plan is to have the 120 converting line in operation by April. The work has already begun.
You guys... I know our updates are long, but it is my hope that at least APUG folks will read the whole thing.
In the update, we said the plan is to have the 120 converting line in operation by April. The work has already begun.
Dave,
Thanks for the encouraging update. I personally found P30 to be one of the best films I have ever used, in terms of achieving the results I favor, so am looking forward not only to getting some more, but to the long term viability of Film Ferrania as a profitable and sustainable business.
Achieving that goal requires profits. Achieving it as soon as people here are clamoring for requires even bigger profits.The physical and logistical and staffing bottlenecks can all be overcome with decidedly more cash on hand, which I doubt is much of an oversimplification. The return of 120, and the return of color reversal film will substantially follow a timeline which pretty much tracks with the amount of money on hand to hire people and pay for things, it might be fairly safe to say, I am imagining.
With that and with the desire of the photography community for sooner rather than later in mind, would it not be an idea worth considering to raise the per roll price of P30 by $1 when you open the store in two days? I would imagine it would not hurt sales volume at this point. That would seem to make more sense than scraping by forever just to have an introductory price which is "competitive" with other manufacturers, only to have to fold the business later because it took forever to get it fully off the ground. I understand that some people will howl at this idea, but some people always howl. You can always lower prices later, and I think most would understand the rationale going forward.
Running a business on razor thin margins is never a good idea, and if your biggest current worry is meeting demand for product, it makes little sense to do so. Just a suggestion.
yeah- the webstore is great. Minimal steps to place your order. Quick and efficient.Likewise, I just order 10 rolls too. The store website works well, quick and painless with no hiccups. Now I wait for delivery,
Jim B.
The tote must be adding the extra $4. I'm surprised that they're only at order 78 for all US and Canada. Maybe when more people get home from work tonight the orders will come in. I was order 50 at 1:30 atlantic standard time.Likewise, 10 rolls at 8.50 plus a tote at 8 bucks... 17 bucks to Canada. Now waiting a tracking numberOnly order # 78, where are the rest of you.?
As far as Cash flow, my credit card is already showing the "Authorized Transaction"
Likewise, 10 rolls at 8.50 plus a tote at 8 bucks... 17 bucks to Canada. Now waiting a tracking numberOnly order # 78, where are the rest of you.?
As far as Cash flow, my credit card is already showing the "Authorized Transaction"
The tote must be adding the extra $4. I'm surprised that they're only at order 78 for all US and Canada. Maybe when more people get home from work tonight the orders will come in. I was order 50 at 1:30 atlantic standard time.
The checkout is pretty slick.
Orders are coming in slowly because I purposely haven't announced anything on social media or by email blast. I wanted to make sure the site wasn't going to crash or some other tragedy.
Stock is limited anyway, so I'm happy to let the most interested and eager folks get a crack at making a purchase. I can always pump the gas if I need to.
Given that a number of us want to try P30 in 120, how feasible is it to sell bulk length rolls of 120, banded, double bagged, and then in a small box to get more of this film out there to those who want it (and are willing to spool it) while generating some more cash flow to get some of the bottlenecks remedied. Is the acetate of 120 thickness already in house for coating?
The simplest answer is "converting is converting" - whether you cut off 100m rolls or 1.5m rolls, it all must converted. It has to be perforated, signed, cut to length and packaged. And we simply cannot afford to convert anything by hand.
Concerning 120, that's a good question. I seem to remember that yes, we do have it in-house already. And as far as I know, it's triacetate, not polyester. But I should check on that.
At $8.50 per roll I won't be buying any.By the way - Film Ferrania I noticed just your pricing of USD 8,50 a simple 135-35 roll....
SO THE PRICING IS REAL OK WITH P30 !...
One question is why are they using the ASA standard which hasn't been used in 30 years. Did they really test it or is it just a retro marketing shtick. Or maybe ASA stands for Anecdotal Standards Association. I'm doubting densitometry was involved.I'm a little bit confused...
In the P30 part of the website, and in the "Best Practices" dokument it says that you Really Really should shoot at 80ASA. Somewhere in this discussion it says that P30 is made for D96 (cinema film) and d76 is the closest commercial match. It also says somewhere that continuous agitation is a good idea.
On the other hand. In the "Best Practices" document is only gives a time for D96 and D76 at 50 ASA, continuous agitation Also the rest of the D76 timess is for 'Normal' agitation.
Is this only because of that the times is what is reported back instead of what is tested at Film Ferrania?
PS: When trying developing Orwo N54 that also is a cinema film I suddenly got a whole new grayscale. It really seems that cinema film like D96/D76 and continuous agitation!
I'm just looking at the box. It says ASA.My Bad.
It says Iso and Ei in the documentation. Not that it make much of a difference.
The old man
That probably a nod at the heritage. If I remember correctly ASA and ISO is more or less the same (replaced two national standards with a third international?). EI is close enough for amateurs.I'm just looking at the box. It says ASA.
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