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Not sure about where to mention this, but this thread seems as good as any. The Film Photography Project is selling 3D printed Minolta style 16 cartridges. I emailed them and asked if they were felted and they said no but hadn’t had any reports of light leaks. But 3D printing leaves ridges so not sure how film is not scratched when it goes through the slots. Maybe they smooth the film channels but can’t tell from the pictures.
They mentioned some users were applying their own felt.
Only a conjecture but it may have had something to do with automated processing and printing machines. That’s my wild a** guess anyway.Correct -- though it varies between cameras, most can cover at least 13x18, while the pre-exposed frame on commercial film is 12x17mm. I don't know what the reason was behind the pre-exposed frame; it originated on 126 (828 had the same perf setup that carried over to 126, but didn't have the frames exposed on the film).
Minolta 16II BW400CN
Is it me or does the rollei seem to be a bit sharper than the Minolta?
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.
Found a nice Mamiya 16 Automatic camera today at a junk shop. It cleaned up nicely but the meter is dead. No real problem, as it has fully manual controls. Now I have to scrounge a couple of film magazines. I have a TON of Agfa and Ilford 16mm out of date stock I can use and might invest in a slitter later.
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Found a nice Mamiya 16 Automatic camera today at a junk shop. It cleaned up nicely but the meter is dead. No real problem, as it has fully manual controls. Now I have to scrounge a couple of film magazines. I have a TON of Agfa and Ilford 16mm out of date stock I can use and might invest in a slitter later.
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Just found one cassette; should be here in a week or so.That thing is so sweet looking! Post pics taken with it ASAP!!
Is it me or does the rollei seem to be a bit sharper than the Minolta?
Two factors -- the 10x14 mm negative in the older Minolta 16 models is only about 60% of the 13x17 of the later ones, and the 16 and 16II had a fixed focus lens, set at around 10 feet; without the 0 lens, you have to be at f/11 or smaller to get hyperfocal -- and depth of field is a convenient myth; with the amount of enlargement you need to see what's in a 10x14 mm negative (a 4x6 inch print is 12x enlargement), your real DOF is about a quarter of what the formulas usually give.
The 400 speed C-41 b&w doesn't play well in such a small format.
I’m also considering strongly the idea of ordering a new Patterson tank and reels and then attempting to modify the reels to adjust for the 16mm film size.
Well, that Kiev 30 shot of the street light has pushed me to go ahead and start shopping for one. Since all my Minolta 16 cartridges will fit it seems a no brainer. I’m also considering strongly the idea of ordering a new Patterson tank and reels and then attempting to modify the reels to adjust for the 16mm film size. Some trepidation there but if I do have the reels in hand and decide it is too complicated or not possible I can still use them for my 35mm and leave the old Yankee Master reels set to 16 permanently.
There's at least one person (on the Submini-L list, his name is Thin) selling 16mm reels that fit the Paterson tank (pretty sure there's at least one on Thingiverse, too, if you have access to a printer). About $20, so it's cheaper to modify one, but his come ready to use.
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