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Nah, like I said, if I was going to that trouble I'll pack a 35mm kit. The beauty of the Rollei is it is tiny - just a little bit bigger than the film cartridge. Smaller than the Pentax.
And the very fact that it does not have an interchangeable lens makes you just use it in a carefree manner, not think about changing lenses.
For me, 110 photography is just that - as simple as possible. The Rollei backs up that philosophy with outstanding results. And the 'spy camera' look is very cool - people have mentioned that to me when I'm using it!

Not knocking the Pentax, just not my thing. BUT I hope someone will post pics taken with it on this thread! Do you have one? If so, post!

I posted earlier some Pentax photos. I have a roll waiting to scan that I'll post up when I'm done.
 

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For me, the bar is moderately high for 110 -- it has to give better results than I'd get with my Kiev 30 or 303, which have scale focus triplet lenses and manual exposure, else I'm ahead with the reloadable cartridges and cutting down any film I can buy. The Pocket Instamatic 60 I have has that -- RF, quality lens, and pretty good auto exposure, though it's ISO 100 only (or slower, with ND over the meter window). Barely enough better to pay for 110 film, though. I need a source of reloadable 110 cartridges...
 

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I’m a little surprised no one has come up with a simplified 3D printed cartridge to fit 110 cameras. Or maybe they exist but I missed it. I know it’s been discussed but a comprehensive list of 110 cameras that DO NOT need the indexing holes in the film to correctly advance the film or tension the shutter would be useful also.
Personally I really prefer the Minolta cartridges, especially used as separate feed and take up without the bridge. They are really easy to load in the dark. With a little practice I can load 10 carts in 15 minutes without feeling rushed. The laundry room door is not completely light tight so this insomniac might be up at 2 am with all the house lights off, loading film.
 

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...Not knocking the Pentax, just not my thing. BUT I hope someone will post pics taken with it on this thread! Do you have one? If so, post!
I do have some photos, but no scanning mask yet. I could only scan them with a cheap scanner, not worth posting. but there will be a mask for my epson v700 soon, a friend will 3D print it for me. when it arrives, I will scan and post.

I have the rollei and I have the pentax with all lenses. my favorite is the the pentax with the 18mm lens. it's not much bigger and I don't change lenses often. sometimes I "carry" the 24mm, 13 grams :smile: my small cameras are here https://www.subcompactcam.com/index.htm
 

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I do have some photos, but no scanning mask yet. I could only scan them with a cheap scanner, not worth posting. but there will be a mask for my epson v700 soon, a friend will 3D print it for me. when it arrives, I will scan and post.

I have the rollei and I have the pentax with all lenses. my favorite is the the pentax with the 18mm lens. it's not much bigger and I don't change lenses often. sometimes I "carry" the 24mm, 13 grams :smile: my small cameras are here https://www.subcompactcam.com/index.htm

I'm having the same issue trying to DSLR scan my Pentax Auto shots. I need some sort of mask specifically. I'll make one on my own this coming week. Even if it's a simple piece of paper.
 

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I have the rollei and I have the pentax with all lenses. my favorite is the the pentax with the 18mm lens. it's not much bigger and I don't change lenses often. sometimes I "carry" the 24mm, 13 grams :smile: my small cameras are here https://www.subcompactcam.com/index.htm

Excellent link! Last sentence about the Rollei sums it up:
Pocket camera at its best.

This page is a size comparison for the 110 cameras that the author considers the best. You can see how tiny the Rollei is.
It seems to me to either get the Rollei or the Pentax.

https://www.subcompactcam.com/110_size.htm
 

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It seems to me to either get the Rollei or the Pentax. https://www.subcompactcam.com/110_size.htm
or get the voigtländer vitoret 110EL. it's even smaller and much lighter. it's 107 cm³ vs 111 cm³ and 126gr vs 185gr. I did not have it when I made the size comparison photos, but I will add another photo soon. the lanthar lens is as good as the tessar, they stopped it down to F5.6 to get a fixed focus camera. picture results were excellent.

and there is another one: I put my hands on a balda 1000 BR-EL. this is a better and a bit wider version of the minox 110S. balda made the minoxes, but made their own line at the same time. and it seems that they don't have the flaws of the minoxes, I have 3 minoxes with advance problems, the balda advance looks the same, but seems to be more precise and reliable. you can find the balda on my page as well...
 

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or get the voigtländer vitoret 110EL. it's even smaller and much lighter. it's 107 cm³ vs 111 cm³ and 126gr vs 185gr. I did not have it when I made the size comparison photos, but I will add another photo soon. the lanthar lens is as good as the tessar, they stopped it down to F5.6 to get a fixed focus camera. picture results were excellent.

and there is another one: I put my hands on a balda 1000 BR-EL. this is a better and a bit wider version of the minox 110S. balda made the minoxes, but made their own line at the same time. and it seems that they don't have the flaws of the minoxes, I have 3 minoxes with advance problems, the balda advance looks the same, but seems to be more precise and reliable. you can find the balda on my page as well...

1st off, really enjoying your site!
The Voigtlander just seems like a poor man's Rollei (and made by Rollei), with its plastic case, fixed focus slower lens and only two apertures to choose from. But I would still like to try one!
Can you post pics taken with it?
austerityphoto has a good review of it, including pics, and sums it up as such:

There’s a lot to like here. A compact incredibly well designed simple camera. But the lens while not bad is not great. Now granted most better optic’d 110 cameras are much bigger but Heinz had developed an other 110 before he got to the Vitoret.

Of course that’s the Rollei A110. Almost as small but with full metering and zone focus. A bloody compact marvel and capable of highly impressive images that could rival even the Minolta Zoom 110 SLR and the Pentax Auto 110.


The Balda - only one broken one on ebay..
 
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I use the Lomo Digitiliza 110 film holder.

I made a mask out of a foam sheet. Took me a bunch of tries. I've found the Auto 110 is loads of fun to use by my hit rate is abysmal.

Auto 110, Vision3 500T

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The chemistry I'm using is beyond shot. The film itself has seen better days. I really don't care though. I'd love one of those Rolleis but Ebay prices for them is out of wack.
 

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1st off, really enjoying your site!
thank you very much.
The Voigtlander just seems like a poor man's Rollei (and made by Rollei), with its plastic case, fixed focus slower lens and only two apertures to choose from. But I would still like to try one!
I don't think that the lens is really slower, they just wanted a fixed focus camera and chose 2 apertures. the plastic is high quality plastic and saves a lot of weight.
Can you post pics taken with it?
as said above, I wait for a scanning mask for my epson v700. corona slows down a lot of things, so it might take another 2 months.
The Balda - only one broken one on ebay..
I know. it took me years to find one.
 

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I made a mask out of a foam sheet. Took me a bunch of tries. I've found the Auto 110 is loads of fun to use by my hit rate is abysmal.

Auto 110, Vision3 500T

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The chemistry I'm using is beyond shot. The film itself has seen better days. I really don't care though. I'd love one of those Rolleis but Ebay prices for them is out of wack.

This one on ebay is currently at $25. I ended up paying about $40 each for mine.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rollei-A11...203959?hash=item344011bdf7:g:bkoAAOSwq5pgaz-d
 

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I just shot two more cartridges through my Rollei, in two days. One was my last roll of Lomo Orca B&W. All excited about getting that done as for this one time I taped up the back window so it wouldn't have any of Lomo's notorious spirit sphere light leaks. Took it to my local and found out that it may be weeks before they get it done as they are waiting for new hardware! Darn it! The other roll was regular colour, so no issue. (something about how they process their B&W film).
 

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Rollei A110, Fukkatsu 400

I've had mixed results with this film. It's sold as expired, but supposedly was correctly stored. About 1/3 of my rolls have had age/heat damage like this.
I'd skip it and get the cheaper and better Lomo Tiger.

 

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I have two unused rolls of Fukkatsu. I bought them mainly for what I read was an easier to open cartridge for reloading. 16mm film isn't hard to come by or recut from wider stock, but the 110 cartridges Lomo films come in are sonic welded -- really, really hard to open without destroying them.
 

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I have two unused rolls of Fukkatsu. I bought them mainly for what I read was an easier to open cartridge for reloading. 16mm film isn't hard to come by or recut from wider stock, but the 110 cartridges Lomo films come in are sonic welded -- really, really hard to open without destroying them.

If you want I can ask for my cartridges back. I think I have at least 5 left. I can wait until they are all done and send them to you (as long as the shop does not destroy them unloading the film!)
 

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Honestly, the two I have are probably enough to at least determine whether it's possible; I'm actually hoping for a 3D printed version made to be reloaded (compatible with camera speed and cartridges sensors, no framing window so no backing paper needed and larger capacity, etc.). At best, the commercial ones are a significant pain to reload compared to something like a Minolta/Kiev cartridge.
 

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I lost that Rollei A110 auction...and another one.

Here's a shot from a Kiev30 with hand slit V3500T. Camera was having issues with film advance.

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Colors are ok. If you like soft this is pretty nice too.
 
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