What's your latest new old camera ? (Part 2)

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I got this camera just for a single gear to put in another camera. For fun, I did get it working but found the prism is almost totally black with separation. So, indeed it is just a 'parts camera.'
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I got this camera just for a single gear to put in another camera.
OK - so what camera is that? Inquiring minds need to know.

It looks like it uses a running tape for the exposure counter. It also looks like it uses string (AKA 'Control Cable') to couple mechanisms, not to mention using string instead of fabric tape for the shutter.
 

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OK - so what camera is that? Inquiring minds need to know.

It looks like it uses a running tape for the exposure counter. It also looks like it uses string (AKA 'Control Cable') to couple mechanisms, not to mention using string instead of fabric tape for the shutter.

That is a nasty Rolleiflex SL35M. I wish I know more of the story, but somehow it is of East German origin (via Rollei's Voightlander acquisition) , nothing like its West German predecessor, the SL35 which I admire. It does offer open aperture metering, whereas the SL35 was stop down. But under the hood it is old and clunky. Speaking of straps, there are little metal 2mm straps running around the top for the open aperture metering. All that wound need to come off to get under the top plate.

In spite of all that, yes I have two more of them that I'd like to keep working. Both were acquired like new but don't function too well. Both are currently locked up; not in a safe...they won't wind!

Actually I got it at the last Photorama. Do you still go?


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Here is the 'good' one with the broken gear that will be replaced from the donor camera. This is merely an exercise in 'fixing stuff' as it is not that great of a camera.

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I finally broke down and bought a Canon 7.

It's in okay shape, some scratches but nothing crazy, the slow speed gears need cleaning but otherwise it works. I think the meter is maybe a stop slow. I cleaned up under the top cover and it still needs new light seals and then it would probably be good to go.

However, I don't think I'll be keeping it. It's a nice camera but it's not that much better than my FED. The VF is only a tiny bit brighter and I don't really need framelines other than 50mm which the FED has. The RF patch has the same narrow viewing angle as the FED and the latter's meter works better. The 1/1000s would be nice to have but I also rarely shoot film faster than ISO 400 or wide open... I kind of bought a solution looking for a problem plus the Canon is a more complicated camera to work on.

I better sell it to someone who will actually use it.
 

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I finally broke down and bought a Canon 7.

It's in okay shape, some scratches but nothing crazy, the slow speed gears need cleaning but otherwise it works. I think the meter is maybe a stop slow. I cleaned up under the top cover and it still needs new light seals and then it would probably be good to go.

However, I don't think I'll be keeping it. It's a nice camera but it's not that much better than my FED. The VF is only a tiny bit brighter and I don't really need framelines other than 50mm which the FED has. The RF patch has the same narrow viewing angle as the FED and the latter's meter works better. The 1/1000s would be nice to have but I also rarely shoot film faster than ISO 400 or wide open... I kind of bought a solution looking for a problem plus the Canon is a more complicated camera to work on.

I better sell it to someone who will actually use it.

I'm surprised to see someone choosing a FED over a Canon. What model FED is it and what lens do you use it with?
 

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I'm surprised to see someone choosing a FED over a Canon. What model FED is it and what lens do you use it with?

FED 5C, the version with 50mm framelines that doesn't have a diopter.

I know, it's irrational but while the Canon is better on paper in nearly every possible way, it feels just a bit too consumer-y, if that makes sense, while the FED is just so unapologetically industrial.

In the end, both take pictures, with the same lens even. People may feel differently here, but the Canon is *not that much better* a camera, not lightyears ahead anyway. Someone else will be quite happy with it, I'm sure.
 

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It's a Contax 167MT with the AA battery holder. Unfortunately it needs to be returned because the bottom half of the display is not visible in the finder.
 

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FED 5C, the version with 50mm framelines that doesn't have a diopter.

I know, it's irrational but while the Canon is better on paper in nearly every possible way, it feels just a bit too consumer-y, if that makes sense, while the FED is just so unapologetically industrial.

In the end, both take pictures, with the same lens even. People may feel differently here, but the Canon is *not that much better* a camera, not lightyears ahead anyway. Someone else will be quite happy with it, I'm sure.

That's entirely fair, I can understand that.
 

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After a couple of years contemplating, I finally decided to buy an LX.
From my research, mine appears to be a mid-release model.
Incredible camera.

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Stunningly beautiful camera. Is that the 43mm lens? F1.9?? I got out an old photo magazine to look for the lens 🤔 👍

Thanks.
It really is a nice camera.
Yeah, it's the 43mm Limited.
Great lens. I use it on both SLR and DSLR.
 

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That is a nasty Rolleiflex SL35M. I wish I know more of the story, but somehow it is of East German origin (via Rollei's Voightlander acquisition) , nothing like its West German predecessor, the SL35 which I admire. It does offer open aperture metering, whereas the SL35 was stop down.

Hi,

yes, it's a different camera.
Voigtländer (also West Germany) was acquisition from Zeiss Ikon (West-Germany), the SL35M was build in Singapoure then.
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That is a nasty Rolleiflex SL35M. I wish I know more of the story

Actually I got it at the last Photorama. Do you still go?

I was looking through the history of the SL35M. Being an Engineer I am drawn to Engineering Disasters. It seems the design started life at Zeiss Ikon as the SL706 and Ikon's last camera. The design had roots in the Ikon Icarex, originally a Voigtlander design that Ikon acquired when they bought Voigtlander in 1966. The Ikon heritage explains the funky internal design, like the exposure counter tape, the use of lots of string running helter-skelter, and no service access or easy disassembly. Zeiss closed down Zeiss Ikon (the camera part of Zeiss) and the camera got sold to Rollei along with Ikon's Voigtlander operation. The camera then bifurcated to become the Rollei SL35M and the Voigtlander VSL-1. Production moved to Singapore where early build quality was variable. With such a history no wonder the camera is traumatized.

I agree, the camera has a certain East German air about it. Maybe Ikon farmed out the design to CZ Jena?

I haven't been to a Photorama camera market in years. I see they are still running, the last one being March 19 so I guess I'll have to wait til next year.
 
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Arrived today. A Mamiya Super 23 circa 1967. Has the Graflok back with the RH8 insert.
Bought "As Is" because shutter button wouldn't work. About an hour of fiddling around and now works great. Speeds sound good. No haze, fungus or cleaning/scratch marks.
 

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My Fuji 6x6/6x7 folder. The VF is incredible, bright, clear, and the Fujinon 80 f3.5 lens is so sharp.
 

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Loaded a 1952-ish Konica II with film this morning. Low speeds maybe a little low, but otherwise feels tip-top.

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Imported last month. Claimed CLA but no paperwork, tested 6 rolls, perfect so far. Operates smoothly, Just added the leather wrap and an M-9 battery adapter, meters great with color film (B&W tested earlier in manual mode). Sharp lens for such a tiny camera!
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Arrived today. A Mamiya Super 23 circa 1967. Has the Graflok back with the RH8 insert.
Bought "As Is" because shutter button wouldn't work. About an hour of fiddling around and now works great. Speeds sound good. No haze, fungus or cleaning/scratch marks.
NIce work! I just got a Mamiya super 23 a couple weeks ago, love it, something about its chonk feels so right.
 
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