What is "Fine Art"?

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  1. Roger Cole

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    It's like a Supreme Court justice once said of obscenity (someone will know who this was, I don't feel like looking it up,) "I can't define it, but I know it when I see it."

    That's less true of "fine" art than obscenity, I think, but the definition of "art for the sole purpose of display, not applied art" makes good sense to me.

    I agree to avoid the term. The real problem with using this as a descriptive term for one's own work is that "fine" implies excellent quality in most people's minds, even though it isn't meant that way in this term. There ought to be a value-neutral term meaning "art solely for display." Then again, there is - art. Various "applied art" are sub-categories, and if isn't any of those, it's just art. Maybe. :wink:
     
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    I'm willing to bet that half the students don't!
     
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    Three threads, merged and stuck.
     
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    "Fine Art Photography" to me is what other people aspire to produce, I'm still struggling with photography.
     
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    It means most of them discovered they could put their crayons in a pencil sharpener.

    In the case of Photography, I'm sure if Stiglitz Flat Iron building is anything to go by, he forgot to focus first!

    What do I know, I'm not a fine art student, just a photography student trying to take pictures people might like, but I don't read the right books, the emperor is naked and his balls are turning blue.
     
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    REad James joyces' "portrait of an artist as a young man". Briefly there is didatic art, that which attemps to teach or comment, such as photojournalism: there is pronograrphic art, that which attempts to focus attention on a beautiful object i.e. landscape filled with color etc. and what the hero of the book described as pure art, that which is inspired from an inner knowing and connects with the viewer such that they are similiarly inspired but cannot define it. It is like a Zen spiritual experience in which the meditator experiences reality but cannot define it.
    I had an experience once while viewing an original Dali painting. I could not tell you what it meant but viewing it started a chilling vibration in my feet that ran through my entire body.
     
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    Go to Arles, the biggest gathering of fine art photographers in the world. First week in July: this year's has just finished.

    Cheers,

    R.
     
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    Regular art is what you do that people like it and want to buy it. Fine art is when you refinish the hardwood floors and vote for liberals.
     
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    It's fine art if it's really good.
     
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    You were there this year - 2013 - mainly balck and white ?
    What was your favorite ?

    I was really impressed by moon lights from Hiroshi Sugimoto and by Fauquet (a very intimate installation) http://jmfauquet.weebly.com/


    Concerning the discussion about fine art, I think in France it is important to make distinction from "l'art" which sound like "lard" ( https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/...1zO1zVqLHZpiTzo9uJbW1SloJju4t6hYDIY_G81BlwI7g ) :D
     
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    Why are photographers so angtious if their work is " fine art"', most of the work that they produce these days that I see I don't even consider competant photography. Anybody can call themselves "artists", and their work " fine art", but to me self advertisement is no recommendation.
     
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    In terms of art, there are applied arts and fine arts. Applied arts is used in practical application like commercial photography while fine arts is displayed in galleries and museums. But they are not mutually exclusive. Some photographers as most know do both.
     
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    to me it means:traditional subjectsproduced withe utmostcare and the very best materials, including mounting ,matting and framing
     
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    priceless answer
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    Fine Art is to the eyes what Fine Dining is to the palate.

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    I think fine art is basically a synonym to a masterpiece. Meaning, a work that has been produced in order to show off the skill of the artist, done with the greatest care and attention to detail from actually creating the work and then presenting it. It's possible to analyze what makes a specific work of art "fine art", but there's not a lot to analyze when it comes to fine art in general.
     
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    Fine art? A bunch of so-called experts who don't know anything throws out chicken bones and studies the pattern the bones make, and decides if it is fine art or not. If you see somebody advertising his/her work as fine art it probably means the person hopes the photos transcend mere snapshots or quickie journalism. Not that they do transcend, necessarily, but that is the rough idea.
     
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    ... and is willing to pay for it!:laugh:
     
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    Sometimes... sometimes "fine art" is a code word for "non-pornographic pictures of naked women". I use the specific gender because it covers the vast majority of the abusers of the term 'fine art', but it can apply to "pictures of naked men" as well. Regardless of the gender, it usually has a certain, distinctive look to it, that like pornography, is very hard to define but you know it when you see it.
     
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    So, David, how does this differ from the old term we used in the past called "Pictorial"? They sure look about the same to me. In fact wouldn't PICTORIAL PHOTOGRAPHER look better on your business cards than Fine Art Photographer? Maybe not the "In" term anymore but a lot more "classy"......Regards
     
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