What is "Fine Art"?

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  1. jovo

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    Pictorial photography is a style rather than overall term referring to images that meet David's criteria. There's a good summary on Wikipedia that covers the typical elements of that approach.

    I just avoid the words 'fine art' altogether. My business card says, "John Voss, Photographs". It will only take a second or so for anyone looking at my blog to realize I'm not the guy to hire for their wedding, bar mitzvah, or other event. :wink:
     
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    Fine Art Photography is big and is expensive and is sold in limited editions in art dealer showrooms.
     
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    Fine Art - because they know what "Real" art is hence they are Artist...... if someone refers to your work as art- that's only because even a blind squirrel gets a nut every now and then.
     
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    I know what Fine A** is, so I am guessing that Beauty and Art is in the eye of the beholder ? :redface:
     
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    This ^^

    "Fine art" is just a term to differentiate it from the forms of art such as gymnastics, sailing etc...
     
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    Fine art is defined buy the person doing the describing. Bluegrass and the Bach family are both fine art to various listeners.
     
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    After my 'official' retirement with some 60+ years under the dark-cloth of which 20+ were spent as a Board Certified 'Registered Biological Photographer. I was 'challenged by my daughter to earn my BFA at the nearby university (as a means of 'staying of of the rocking chair and away from daytime television'). I graduated at the ripe old age of 73. I was somewhat 'surprised' to find out that 'digital craftsmanship took second place to the "concept" and "meaning" when those images were stuck up on the wall for class critique and final 'grade' .It soon became quite obvious that some students would present what they knew the 'type' of images the Professor had preference.
    I guess I am allowed can now regard myself as 'artist' and so ... The 'business card' I have handy in my wallet when being 'interviewed by one of the members of the local constabulary (who have, on numerous occasion, stopped and 'demanded' an answer to their "what I am 'doing?/ do you have permission?" question), So.. I hand tem a 'card' which has the word "Photographist" under my name. and I politely inquire as to whether I am in breach of some 'unwritten' law...or ordinance.... most times they hand the card back and 'quietly' walk away. there have been one or two who have asked to ''have a quick 'peek' at the GG under the dark-cloth and quietly exclaimed "wow! that is neat"

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    Me to
     
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    Yes, good point.
     
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    This is the sort of thing that reminds me our current society is mostly a piece of steaming dog turd, and that people 50+ years ago really were living more civilized, humane, real existences.
    I like this response - most people now would bellow their self-righteous outrage on social media. I know which I prefer...
     
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    This doesn't really answer the question but most photographers that I have known who set themselves up as "Fine Art" photographers, spent more getting business cards printed than they ever made selling pictures. Of course I don't live in a large city where things might be different but I doubt it. In spite of what people say, I find that people who buy pictures buy them because they like them, not because the photographer calls him/her selves; "Fine Art Photographers". But nowadays, with egos so important, maybe I am wrong............Not that any of us have overactive egos......Regards!
     
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    highly aesthetic photographs prepared with the utmost care and prepared and presented on the best materials(paper stock, mounting boards etc.).worthy of being accepted by galleries, museums and collectors.
     
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    Additionally, mastery of technical concepts and knowledge of the subject, whether it be portraiture (or its many derivatives), landscape (especially) of mixed-style (multiexposure/multiprocess).
     
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    what about commerical work ...
    i know some photojournalistic imagery
    over the years has been hailed as "fine art photography"
    or is it only "fine art photography" AFTER it has served its purpose
    as a commerical illustration,vogue cover, glad-hand-handshake, wartime editorial,
    and/or "wartime editorial photograph that was found/ discovered to be photoshopped/HDR'd overly manipulated
    and later called a 'composite image' " or stolen work like the marlboro man or images gathered from instagram printed and presented
    at a gallery ( currated by someone else ), and i haven't even mentioned works by the russian constructavists or people like man ray or miroslav tichy )
    ... some of these things are considered "fine art photography" and they do not fall into the restrictive categories presented in this thread ...
     
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    You can't chrome-plate a turt!
     
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    Maybe you haven’ t but plenty are sold for big bucks!
     
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    Does it really matter how you define it?. Will your definition have any effect on whether a gallery which shows photography will show your work?
     
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    You can make a Lith print of it :D

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    Here in Germany the term is not even used.
     
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    Galleries that hang Miroslav Tichy's work would disagree:
     
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    Fine Art is certainly not limited to film.
     
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    Uh, yea. In fact the inclusion of photography in that term is pretty recent.
     
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    I love Tichy's work. He certainly was an "artist." And BTW, he did go to art school.

    Back in the day they used to say, "The Art is the Idea."
     
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