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My problem film occurred back when I was in China. My dark room was shut down and so the film was processed by an outside lab. I had no paper from this film so nothing to send to Kodak.
I'n not sending my negatives to Kodak.
Was your problem reported formally to Kodak, or your lab, or the retailer you bought the film from with examples/scans showing the problem, info about where and when you bought the film, how it was shipped to you, how it was stored, and did you request replacement?
Very bad timing for me.
That it is.
My point though is that Kodak doesn't know that you Mr. RattyMouse, had a problem.
How many others are in that same boat with you?
Here is an another example of the same issue, taken from the Dutch analogue forum. Even though it is written in Dutch, the link to the flickr account shows the issue clear enough.
Hallo allemaal,
Ik ben nog niet zo lang geleden bezig met analoge fotografie en ik zit nog behoorlijk in de testfase. Nu heb ik vorige week een 120 rolletje laten ontwikkelen en de negatieven thuis gescand. Nu bevatten de eerste drie foto´s cijfers en het woord KODAK. Ik neem aan dat dit niet door mijn fotografie komt : . Heeft iemand enig idee wat dit heeft veroorzaakt? (Ik heb de foto zo aangepast in photoshop dat de letters en cijfers duidelijk te zien zijn). https://www.flickr.com/photos/fortgens/23983342495
Bedankt!
Hello all, I am not so long ago in progress with analogue photography and I am still quite in the test phase . I now have a last week 120 film to develop and the negatives scanned at home. Now include the first three photos figures and the word Kodak. I assume that this is not by my photography is :. Does anyone have any idea what has caused this? (i have the photo as adapted in photoshop that the letters and figures are clearly displayed).
Have shot hundreds of rolls of 400 TX in past year, give or take and all with white backing, and have not had this issue at all. So I guess this problem is specific to Tmax 400 then ?
Same issue here in Switzerland with T-max 100 (five rolls affected out of the same box)
Nope, as I was days away from making the 8,000 mile move back to the US. My final rolls of film shot in China (after living there 6 years) were caught up in this problem. I shot the film, mailed it away, got it back, and then moved back to the US within days. I had a lot more important things on my mind at the time than Kodak's film quality. I'm just sorry that my very last walk through Shanghai was caught up in this mess. Very bad timing for me.
No:The flickr photo (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fortgens/23983342495), which Huub referred to in post #140, says Taken sometime in 2004, so not related with the recent paper facelift and most likely due severe storage abnormalities.
So it could have happened while it was in the mail to the photo finisher, right? So the only thing you can do, besides stewing in your own juices, is to contact Kodak and ask them if sending in a scan is good enough or should you send in the negatives.
It was posted the day before yesterday, with the text that the film was acquired recently, processed by a commercial lab and good until 2018. So not from 2004 and definitely related to the current problems.
If Kodak is more active (like Ilford or Adox) on APUG and other forums / social media - then Kodak would know about it.
I would expect Kodak film to withstand the heat of the Sahara or the Amazon jungle.
You think film shouldn't withstand 150 degrees in a hot rental car parked at Disney World in July?
Probably some moron figured out a way to save a few pennies in reformulation or quality control.
This whole situation is very bothersome to someone who WANTS to support Kodak through their pocketbook!
We should not forget that a kind of brain-drain has taken place in the whole industry, and those knowledegable who remain likely have no convincing power at those who make decisions.
We should not forget that a kind of brain-drain has taken place in the whole industry, and those knowledegable who remain likely have no convincing power at those who make decisions.
Sadly, I think this is correct. Does anyone remember the space shuttle breakup after management opted to launch despite warnings from technicians and scientists? What about automobile recalls years after management was warned by their techs and designers... costing many lost lives. Embarrassingly, this is the norm in the USA. This is caused by corporate and individual greed, without significant corporate and individual penalties for intentional failures. Okay... off my soapbox now.
Does anyone remember the space shuttle breakup after management opted to launch despite warnings from technicians and scientists?
Every clueless management type who believes that companies can be successfully run only by the results of repeated spreadsheet Recalc button clicks needs to have the name Roger Boisjoly burned into their brains with a red hot iron...
Ken
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