The Ilford 120 film issue - which films have people seen affected?

[FotoD]

Problem is known since February 2020

https://www.ilfordphoto.com/stateme...store=ilford_brochure&___from_store=ilford_uk

OK, thanks! That's good info.

 

[removedacct1]

I’ve only seen the backing paper/mottling problem on rolls of film that are past their expiration date. I haven’t seen it since I made a point of using all film before it gets to its “best before” date.

 

[Jonno85uk]

Only xp2 but it may have been a bit expired.

I don't shoot as much Ilford as I used to (fp4/hp5) but the delta 400 and 3200 I still use have never had this issue for me

 

[abruzzi]

I haven't shot much Ilford 120 film lately, but I haven't encountered it on the Delta 3200 I have shot.

 

[hoffy]

Yes you need to correct those spellings!

While I am still living in a country that is still (unfortunately) part of the Commonwealth....

 

[pbromaghin]

This is the first I've seen/heard of this. Thank God. I just processed, together in the same tank, 2 rolls of FP4 exposed the same weekend, just a couple weeks before. One was perfect and the other had what looked like snow all over it. Coincidentally, most of it was shot outdoors, the day after a snowstorm, and so I thought there must have been near-invisible snow crystals blowing around. But there they were in a couple indoor shots too. It near drove me crazy.

 

[halfaman]

Problem is known since February 2020

https://www.ilfordphoto.com/stateme...store=ilford_brochure&___from_store=ilford_uk

"Over the last 18 months, to the end of February 2020..."

Problem is known since January 2019.

 

[markbau]

Yes you need to correct those spellings!

And you guys need to get into the 19th century and adopt a weight and measurement system based on 10.

 

[Ernst-Jan]

And you guys need to get into the 19th century and adopt a weight and measurement system based on 10.

 

[Ernst-Jan]

I never had any problems with HP5+, I have shot about 4 bricks of HP5+ and 2 bricks of FP4+ the last years (from different batches)

 

[BMbikerider]

Yes… returning to normal programming….

I’ve not seen such problems with 2-year old FP4+ or brand new PanF.

And never had a problem with any Ilford colour film.

What colour film do Ilford make?

 

[AgX]

One that will never be harmed by backing paper.

 

[Tony-S]

I'm happy to say that over fifty years I have been lucky to have never gotten a defective roll or sheet of film either Ilford or Kodak. I wish I could say the same for the images I recorded on them!

The only film defect I've ever experienced was a chest X-ray that showed a large spot on my left lung. That led to a CT scan that found nothing, fortunately. The radiologist opined that the original X-ray film may have been compromised. Nonetheless, it was a stressful week for me.

 

[Sirius Glass]

And you guys need to get into the 19th century and adopt a weight and measurement system based on 10.

Actually more like the 18th century, the metric system was developed in 1799 during the Age of Enlightenment and the French Revolution.

 

[John Phive]

I've used the Ilford 120 film once, never more.

 

[gone]

I’m a magnet for wrapper offset and other 120 issues.

Reminds me of the bike messenger I saw in 'frisco years ago w/ a T-shirt on that said "Lunatic Magnet".

 

[Arthurwg]

No problems with SFX?

 

[Sirius Glass]

I've used the Ilford 120 film once, never more.

This problem is one caused by the paper, not the film and affected many companies including Ilford and Kodak.

 

[Dusty Negative]

Reminds me of the bike messenger I saw in 'frisco years ago w/ a T-shirt on that said "Lunatic Magnet".

There may be some truth to this as well, but that would be more appropriate for a different forum.

 

[pentaxuser]

Yes what problems with Ilford 120? I have seen none. Is that anymore valid that those with the opposite experience? I doubt it Does this help or hinder establishing what hoffy's problem might be? No not a bit, anymore than I believe anyone else's posts can. I fail to see how we can help here in terms of helping hoffy make a reasonable decision on what he does.Is there any way we can establish if it's a Ilford problem at source or a problem outwith Ilford's control? I doubt it

The best I can manage is to say: Contact Ilford, hoffy with all the details you can muster and see what it says

pentaxuser

 

[RalphLambrecht]

So, by now many of us have experienced the "snow" (or chicken pox) effect that effects affects certain Ilford 120 films. For me personally, I've had the issue on Fp4+ - so much so, that I am giving it a miss for a while. What stocks I have will not be used on anything important and I can't risk purchasing any more for now (I had to buy k..k...k...kodak! Phew - I managed to say it)

So, I am curious to understand what films people have seen this issue on? I know people have also reported seeing it on PanF, but has anyone had the same issues with Delta 100?

Cheers.

I'venot seen it on FP4+ so far!

 

[mshchem]

Note from Ilford website, not sure if it is a factor. I order film and paper in the colder months, keep everything in a refrigerator.

"Storage: Our films should be stored below 20C / 68F as shown on the bottom of each box. It is important to avoid extreme high temperatures, humidity or fluctuating temperatures."

 

[Sirius Glass]

I store all my unopened film in the freeze and opened film in the refrigerator. I have been doing that for over a decade.

 

[Larry the sailor]

In the last couple of days I've run 5 rolls of HP5+ that had exp dates of Oct 2019 and Nov 2020. they had been stored at "room temperature" for a couple of years. I had no spotting, mottling or backing paper bleed through on any of them.

 

[Sirius Glass]

In the last couple of days I've run 5 rolls of HP5+ that had exp dates of Oct 2019 and Nov 2020. they had been stored at "room temperature" for a couple of years. I had no spotting, mottling or backing paper bleed through on any of them.

The problem came from paper problems. So far it has not been linked to storing at room temperature, refrigerating, or freezing. I freeze all my film.