...but is there any scenario where you buy ten rolls the new CatLabs film and use it to take pictures?
...we had at least one complaint...
I've deleted a bunch of Sal's posts here, along with some responses thereto...
Until we can get an H&D curve that we can be sure represents the true curve from which an ISO can be established and a spectral response that is equally valid then it is difficult to be sure of the film's pros and cons
I have ideas from what I have seen so far about its ISO from pics at various speeds and there is the elements of a conclusion to be reached on its contrast and handling of shadow detail from those pics but I'd rather not speculate until the real info is clearer
pentaxuser
If you have comments about moderation - they belong elsewhere...
...to Sal - do you want your posts restored and moved to the thread about CatLabs and their film announcement, rather than our experiences with the new CatLabs film?
@BradS FWIW, the next film to go in my RB67 will be the CatLabs 320 (got to finish a roll of GP3 100 in 220 format first -- five or six frames left). Or I might load a roll in the Graflex 23 back for my Century. Eight frames doesn't take long to get through. Then of course, there's the backlog in my darkroom...
Maybe I missed something but the OP posts read as if OP did do an ISO test on the film.
...but I had the impression that aparat considered there was more to be done before finally pronouncing on the ISO... reached a definitive value..,
You may be right Brian in #185 but it was my impression there there had been further developments since those far-off days of aparat's #42 but as I said aparat can reply and state where his findings on ISO has finally taken him assuming he has reached the end.
pentaxuser
Yes aparat has done a lot of work but I had the impression that aparat considered there was more to be done before finally pronouncing on the ISO
If indeed I have misinterpreted where aparat ended up and he has finished his work and reached a definitive value on which he is satisfied then I am sure he will say so
pentaxuser
ISO-6 1993
5.4.2 Processing specifications
The only processing specification required in this International Standard is that the density difference between point m an n shall be 0.80. No additional processing specifications are included...
It'll be interesting to see if anyone tries the dev time for iso 1600 on the Catlabs site. They claim at iso 1600 the benefit is maximum speed with unpredictable results.
If that is a reasonable summary of CatLAB'S statement then couldn't that apply to almost any film in terms of unpredictable results? Was there any attempt to qualify what it meant in terms of the kind of unpredictable results which are likely to occur?
Is it possible to copy and paste what it actually said?
Thanks
pentaxuser
Thanks ic-racer for #190. Am I right in assuming that for all intents and purposes, your belief is that what aparat did in his test results is a valid ISO for the film and one which if Kodak had done its results would be the same or very close to that which aparat produced.
That is if say aparat's result was a speed of 80 then that the speed produced by Kodak is likely to be within what fraction of a stop either way?
Thanks
Nick, thanks so much. This has been an enjoyable process and I've learned a few things, although I don't have the skills to fully grasp the testing you've done like some others here do.I have finished doing my basic “curve family” analysis of the Catlabs Pro 320 film
No problem. Great questions! I was going to address these questions later, but I might as well try now.Nick, thanks so much. This has been an enjoyable process and I've learned a few things, although I don't have the skills to fully grasp the testing you've done like some others here do.
So a question for you: If you were using this film, how would you expose it if you were after the best overall performance? By "best overall performance" I'm referring in this case to recording as much information as possible without excessive contrast, i.e. empty shadows and/or blocked highlights.
With that goal in mind and after seeing your test results I would lean toward exposing a normal scene at ISO100 and adjust the processing to suit that ISO, but I'd like to hear your take on it.
And a second question, from someone that has seen Ilford-looking smooth curves like you've shown, but not the lumpy Catlabs curves that you are showing here. I would not expect Ilford quality film for the price Catlabs has managed to achieve so I don't want this to sound nit-picky, but those curves are curious looking. Do you have any comments about why they might look the way that they do?
Are the developing times specified on your [Catlabs] website intended for a rotary processor?
The assumption that you reduce the processing time by 20% for rotation processing is wholly erroneous.
I would not expect Ilford quality film for the price Catlabs has managed to achieve
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