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@loccdor thanks! I'm really looking forward to see your results on 6x6!
I wonder if the base color is a result of us using regular blix, while chromemax used SR-29 bleach and neutral fixer.

@chromemax your results don't have any redish color shifts, right?

Regarding contrast... this will sound crazy but what if we would pull it one stop? To ISO 6 or 8 would that help a bit? (It's still bigger ISO than the wet plate!!!)
I mean I like it the way it is right now. But I also understand that one might want at least some shadow detail.
 

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I'm not familiar enough with this C-41 reversal process to know if pulling on the first developer will work. If I recall correctly, slide films aren't recommending for pulling, but can push well, so my instinct is that things might fall apart.
 
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@loccdor thanks! I'm really looking forward to see your results on 6x6!
I wonder if the base color is a result of us using regular blix, while chromemax used SR-29 bleach and neutral fixer.

@chromemax your results don't have any redish color shifts, right?

Regarding contrast... this will sound crazy but what if we would pull it one stop? To ISO 6 or 8 would that help a bit? (It's still bigger ISO than the wet plate!!!)
I mean I like it the way it is right now. But I also understand that one might want at least some shadow detail.



When used as color negative film Phoenix has strong color crossover with cyan highlights, so it would be strange if same behaviour had not been shown using Phoenix 200 as slide. Looking at gray squares of colorchecker (scans in my first post) you can see a crossover with light pink highlights and cyan shadows. In post #13 I read the base+fog and the maximum black with a color densitometer comparing with maximum black of some slide film of 20 years ago and the D-max imho is comparable but also the densitometer show a cyan cast on the blacks.

Phoenix is indeed a young color film and may be that is for its "youth" that inversion is so successfull with this film, but the imperfect color balance is inherent in this film: intepreting Harman's words, at this stage of development the Phoenix 200 is a "beta version" film.

I'm sorry for delays in my reply and in my research for best results with the inversion of the Phoenix but I have a broken leg due to a motorcycle accident and I can't go upstairs in to my darkroom and all my photographic activity is stopped for the next two months.
 
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