Shanghai GP3 100 220 - still an unfinished product?

[Sirius Glass]

Hold up.

I didn't test my rolls yet.

Get to work then!

Kings aren't elected. That was part of the problem.

Someone has to die first, even if it means beheading as done in England and France.

 

[Cholentpot]

Get to work then!





Someone has to die first, even if it means beheading as done in England and France.

Waiting for the sun. It'll show up eventually...

 

[Huss]

Shanghai film does not even qualify as an art film. I will not be buy any 220 backs. Money well saved. We can close the thread now.

That's it! SHUT DOWN THIS THREAD! Sirius has taken his ball and gone home.

 

[Sirius Glass]

That's it! SHUT DOWN THIS THREAD! Sirius has taken his ball and gone home.

And he as not lost his marbles. He still has them to put into bottle to keep out the air, although they can make a bottle get very heavy.

 

[Cholentpot]

That's it! SHUT DOWN THIS THREAD! Sirius has taken his ball and gone home.

Aww Nuts. It's always like that, it's my turn at bat and Sirius's Mom calls him in.

 

[epp]

Aww Nuts. It's always like that, it's my turn at bat and Sirius's Mom calls him in.

I think the thread could be shut down, if it has been officially determined by Photrio users, that the film is indeed an unfinished product.

 

[Nokton48]

In anticipation of upcoming success with my four rolls (also waiting for sun good luck)

I have ordered another ten rolls yesterday, to really give it a good go. My C33's, C22, and six A24's are hungry. I also have a big stash of Shanghai 100 120 which they were blowing out a decade ago. So I loaded up the truck back in the day. Been frozen all this time

D23 can be mixed with measuring spoons. It is a cheapskate developer, just Metol and Sulphite and water

 

[Agulliver]

When I get around to shooting mine, I will develop in either ID-11 or Microphen using a standard regimen (dev with agitation, bit of a wash, fix, wash, dry). I'm now confident that the negatives will not exhibit all the gunk that those processed in the monobath did and that they'll look very good - depending on my photography skills on the days I shoot.

Mulling over taking my big Kiev to Lanzarote next month, but it strikes me as impractical.

 

[AgX]

But we still are waiting on Ansel reporting back on the "scratch" shown on his scans, whether there is such actually on the negative and if so, from where it originates.

 

[Huss]

But we still are waiting on Ansel reporting back on the "scratch" shown on his scans, whether there is such actually on the negative and if so, from where it originates.

That's going to be a tough call. If it is on the negative - and not just a scanning artifact - we still would not know if the lab did it or the mfg.

 

[Nokton48]

OK I have my first roll hanging and to me at the moment looks like an A1+ success. Mamiya C22 with 220 Back did a great job metering the 220 and those old Mamy lenses are sharp. Studio stuff looks good as do some on camera flash work. No scratches at all I can see so far. But to be super careful after photoflo-ing, I hung it up without wiping it with my fingers.

When you get in the dark with this sufff it unrolls like under spring pressure. No harm done but WOW.

Negs look really good to me Have like twelve more 220 rolls to go next. A24 Hasselblad roll nearly gone through. Working on itt

Film loaded onto 220 JOBO Reels and into a Multitank 5. Spun on a Unicolor Uniroller, D23 1:1 12 minutes. I know that's a little long but I like beefy negatives.

I suspect this is an old school emulsion formulation and I am great with that.

 

[Nokton48]

I have exposed three more rolls in Hasselblads and Mamiya C22, I think this is going to be viable in D23. When I get four rolls finished up I'll run 'em in my poor man's JOBO Uniroller. I did have a roll that stopped twice at 19 (re-rolled it did it again) and not sure what was going on, was in C22. Did get three more shots at the end of the roll hopefully spacing ok. We will see. So far I like this stuff although it's sort of 'spensive. Didi order another ten rolls so continuing on.

 

[grat]

Side note on GP3-- they appear to be producing 127 format film as well. Not that I have any 127 cameras, but I found it on eBay, and thought it was interesting.

Apologies if this is old news, but I didn't remember seeing it mentioned before.

 

[pentaxuser]

Side note on GP3-- they appear to be producing 127 format film as well.
Apologies if this is old news, but I didn't remember seeing it mentioned before.

Well it is not old news for me as I don't recall it being mentioned before either so thanks

pentaxuser

 

[Nokton48]

Has anybody here handled this film under a red safelight as Shanghai recommends? If so I was not aware that is is orthochromatic. Actually I am good with that so it will react well to deep yellow and yellow/green filtering

 

[Agulliver]

I keep banging on about Shanghai GP3 being mad in 127 and 620 formats.

Shrugs.

 

[John Wiegerink]

I keep banging on about Shanghai GP3 being mad in 127 and 620 formats.

Shrugs.

I just love those tiny Baby Rollei cameras and might just pick one up. I have a very small folding Zeiss camera for 127 that I could be using now that film is handy. Also, millions of 620 cameras were made and the reintroduction of 620 film might just spark interest in that direction also. With the advent of 3D printing and the like, I just don't understand why film makers like Kodak, Ilford or even Foma haven't run limited runs of 620 film. Everything is the same for 620 as it is for 120, but the spool size. Too bad we have to rely on the Chinese to come to our 620/127 rescue. Actually, Kodak should feel a little responsible and make limited runs of 620, since they are the ones that created the bastard size film spools to begin with. JohnW

 

[MattKing]

Actually, Kodak should feel a little responsible and make limited runs of 620, since they are the ones that created the bastard size film spools to begin with. JohnW

I'm assuming that argument should also apply to all of the dozens of other film sizes that Kodak created.
Disc cameras, anyone!?

 

[Huss]

So far I like this stuff although it's sort of 'spensive. Didi order another ten rolls so continuing on.

How does the pricing compare to other 220 film being made?

 

[John Wiegerink]

I'm assuming that argument should also apply to all of the dozens of other film sizes that Kodak created.
Disc cameras, anyone!?

Matt,
Yes, I suppose it could, but none of the other formats would be as easy to restart as 620. Just need some cheap-ass spools, and you're all set. Nobody says they have to run millions of rolls, but a few short runs would let them know how to gauge their production for the market. Of course, knowing Kodak and probably Iford also, they would want to charge four times the price of a roll of 120 film. That would put it out of the market for me. Shanghai is bad enough when it comes to pricing, 620 compared to 120. I'll just keep re-spooling my own 620. That way I can have any emulsion I want as long as it comes in 120. Takes me about 2 1/2 minutes (sometimes faster) to re-spool one roll and I can easily live with that time allotment. Life isn't always easy, but that's life, I guess. JohnW

 

[MattKing]

Just need some cheap-ass spools, and you're all set.

I expect that the minimum order quantities may be where the challenge is - for metal, not plastic spools (because they have to be so much thinner than 120) and the separate round of film packaging. Eastman Kodak has to buy that stuff now, as they don't have the manufacturing capacity any more.
And of course they would have to figure out some way to change the spooling equipment itself, as 620 spools are different in dimension, and have different keyholes.
Nothing that money wouldn't fix.

 

[Sirius Glass]

I just love those tiny Baby Rollei cameras and might just pick one up. I have a very small folding Zeiss camera for 127 that I could be using now that film is handy. Also, millions of 620 cameras were made and the reintroduction of 620 film might just spark interest in that direction also. With the advent of 3D printing and the like, I just don't understand why film makers like Kodak, Ilford or even Foma haven't run limited runs of 620 film. Everything is the same for 620 as it is for 120, but the spool size. Too bad we have to rely on the Chinese to come to our 620/127 rescue. Actually, Kodak should feel a little responsible and make limited runs of 620, since they are the ones that created the bastard size film spools to begin with. JohnW

Please explain how taking a roll of 620 in my Brownie Hawkeye camera will produce something with a 3D printer. Am I missing something?

 

[John Wiegerink]

Please explain how taking a roll of 620 in my Brownie Hawkeye camera will produce something with a 3D printer. Am I missing something?

Siriusly,
You miss nothing. I'm referring to the ease of making 620 spools now compared to years back. Heck, almost anyone can make them now. I don't need any, since I have a large stock already. Now, dump that Hasselblad and get going with your Brownie Hawkeye. JohnW

 

[Nokton48]

How does the pricing compare to other 220 film being made?

Point taken of course. Actually this is priced in line with other available roll films in my opinion. I'm Happy Happy that it -is- available.

 

[Nokton48]

Shanghai 220 Testing I like it by Nokton48, on Flickr

• I've ordered ten more rolls so I guess I like it. I have six A24 backs I bought broken from a local Portrait photographer who had a very busy studio. Then I sent them to Hasselblad USA for complete rebuilds. Then the wedding market collapsed and all went digital. So these have been idle, and the C33's and C22 take 220. Major major plus is that the film is orthochromatic rendition which I prefer bigtime, responds better to yellow and yellow green filtering my preference. Pyro+ is my fave developer of all time and along with D23 I am set. Actually I'm thinking of buying another ten rolls. So a very old school rendition that I prefer.