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Cannot do B&W landscapes...

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Just in case you missed it, that was a response to Old Gregg's thinking that he needed colour to make successful landscape photos. The image is his, after I showed how it look if the colour was removed from it, to show how its strengths came from much more than its colour.

I agree with Matt. It may take some practice on your part. One way, the one I used was to take the same photograph in black & white and color to learn how to improve your black & white seeing. The second it to use a brown filter to help visualize what a black & white photograph would look like. Either or both will help train you to see when monochrome will work better.
 

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That was actually MattKing.

I wondered how ethical it is to publicly make changes to an image without the artist's approval.

I think they actually discussed that a bit in the thread. It's a very slippery slope, but my own opinion is that @MattKing was just trying to be helpful. Plus, knowing Matt (just from here, obviously) and his tendency to use his posts to offer advice/teach, I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. But it is a very slippery slope and I think you are absolutely right to raise and be concerned by the issue. And, in this case, @Old Gregg 's image is stunning as is and definitely does not need to be rendered in B&W.
 

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FWIW, without consent, I would never demonstrate a change to someone else's image, except in the context of sharing that change with the photographer, and for discussion purposes only.
And I wouldn't have done so in Old Gregg's case, if the obvious strength of form in his example photo wasn't so inconsistent with his own comment about own abilities.
 
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FWIW, without consent, I would never demonstrate a change to someone else's image, except in the context of sharing that change with the photographer, and for discussion purposes only.
And I wouldn't have done so in Old Gregg's case, if the obvious strength of form in his example photo wasn't so inconsistent with his own comment about own abilities.

Sorry Matt for any misunderstanding. It wasn't intended to be an accusation, but a topic for consideration. Nobody questions your intention to illustrate the possibilities of the image and inspire the photographer.
 

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And it is an interesting topic Stephen. Perhaps I'll start a separate thread in the Ethics and Philosophy sub-forum.
These threads which display - in fact share - so much interesting and wonderful photography do bring rise to thinking about what it means to display work on the immensely accessible and incredibly malleable world that is the internet.
I've really enjoyed seeing your photographs. If I may say so, they are very different than what I expected, because I had wrongly assumed that your photographs would be more similar to the analytically rigorous information that you normally post.
 
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And it is an interesting topic Stephen. Perhaps I'll start a separate thread in the Ethics and Philosophy sub-forum.
These threads which display - in fact share - so much interesting and wonderful photography do bring rise to thinking about what it means to display work on the immensely accessible and incredibly malleable world that is the internet.
I've really enjoyed seeing your photographs. If I may say so, they are very different than what I expected, because I had wrongly assumed that your photographs would be more similar to the analytically rigorous information that you normally post.

I've played with a couple of other people's images from this very thread. I don't know why. It's not like they were missing anything. Maybe it a question of how would I have approached it. To tell you the truth, I like your version of the image better.

Hopefully my images are different then what you expected in a good way. If that's true, thank you for saying so. The technical is a tool and the most precise way of communicating the process.
 
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