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And people think I'm nuts!I can dig it!
I then rolled up some Agfa Aviphot 200
Where did you get it in 120 format?
Oh I admit that I may have gone a little overboard but it worked! I can't afford an Xpan.
I took the back lid off the Mamiya C3 and removed the lens. I think with the right material I can get some baffles in there. It should work. Anyone have a 55mm C series lens? That should give me closer to the Xpan focal. For now I'll settle with the 65 if I get the system working.
Meanwhile here's another shot from the Ricohflex
.. no pun intendedthe dark arts of cutting down 70mm film
.. no pun intended
This would work well with a Mamiya Press
This would work well with a Mamiya Press if you had an extra dark slide and cut it in half. You could put the dark slide in, take one photo, then flip the dark slide over for the next photo. Something like this:
If you are going to mask a Mamiya C you need to make allowances for the lens change baffle, You don't want to displace the baffles with a lens change. If you are not going to change the film advance and stick to 12 on 120, I would just mask the finder if you are doing your own printing.
The red window on the Mamiyaflex and the C2 was a 'film loaded' indicator. Both have frame counters and advance stops, as do all the later models in the series.
Where did you get it in 120 format?
Have you considered using 35 mm film? Rolleiflexes and Flexarets had adapters for shooting cine film. The obvious problem is that your "panoramic" frame will be vertical. I can imagine shooting a landscape with a Rolleiflex loaded with 35 mm film! On the positive side, you don't need any frame masks.
Does it need to be a TLR camera? The modifications could be easier with a folding 6x6 or even 6x4.5 camera. I've seen people shooting panoramic frames in their Hasselblads and Bronicas. There is also Praktisix, Pentax 67 and similar systems with interchangeable lenses.
He (and I) are some of the few folks in the world practicing the dark arts of cutting down 70mm film and hand-rolling it into 120/220 film. Definitely worth it if you’re willing to put time into it.
This would work well with a Mamiya Press if you had an extra dark slide and cut it in half. You could put the dark slide in, take one photo, then flip the dark slide over for the next photo. Something like this:
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The choice limiting issue, to me, is that your method relies on red window frame counting and non-auto cocking (or at least being able to wind halfway and defeat double exposure prevention). If you want a better lens/shutter/finder, you need a camera that combines a better lens with relatively primitive film winding, and that cuts the options down.
For example, the Yashica-A uses a red window, but it also has the few-speed shutter. There might be another Ricoh TLR (Ricohflex, Diacord, ?) that happens to have a better lens/shutter and still retain the red window. The Mamiyaflex C2 series (not the C3 which has auto cocking) is a possibility but I don't think the red window is really meant to count frames with; you could try calibrating/guessing how much to wind each half of a frame.
Some of these cameras took a focal plane mask to shoot 35mm, and where that fits you can probably fit a similar mask for 3x6.
That is nice! With a 6x9 back, you can do 3x9s. Not sure if it would work for Mamiya backs, but I had some Graflex 120 backs for 6x9 cameras that had no dark slides. Bought some 4x5 dark slides for a low price on Ebay. A little time on the band saw, a little sandpaper, and voila- dark slide for 6x9. Well, might be a source for dark slides to hack holes into (or as for me, dark slides to make old holders usable).
The Rolleicord Va and Vb have an insert for the back to convert it to 4.5 x 6. You could easily pop that in and out as you wanted, modify as you want. There is a double exposure override. The counter shows enough that you could probably eyeball half frames... or use the 16 frame counter and have large frame spacing. Half-frame TLRs, gotta love it.
I think I would keep shooting what you have put together.
You're getting some nice sharp, great contrast images.
This would work well with a Mamiya Press
This would also work with any Graflex 2x3 Graflok mount roll film back on an RB67. For the Mamiya backs you'd have to dance with the double exposure lever, and it's simpler to just load 35 mm film in a 220 back with the two pieces of the turn around roller joined (a drop of medium super glue worked on mine). Things have come together in my head, I'm going to make up a couple test rolls but I believe I've come up with a way to change film in the field with this setup without needing a changing bag to unload/rewind.
I really want to try the 24x68 frame with a 50 mm and 0.45x filter. Wider than Xpan...
35mm through a 6x9 back on my Century Graphic 2x3.
Right, but since these are turns-counters, won't your spacing tend to decrease as the film thickness doesn't build up at the rate the cam is cut for? The RB67 220 back is a length counter, driven by the turn-around roller nearest the supply spool.
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happy shootingMamiya RZ67 Back 120 / 24 Exp (?!) - weird problem
The pressure plate, looks large/normal sized to me (aren't the pressure plates identical for all formats?): I noticed that there are empty holes for screws, 2 on each side. Maybe this is where the correct (or any other) mask would be / had been attached. My regular 120 back is loaded...www.photrio.com
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