Leica photographers - the naked truth

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Start date Jun 26, 2021

markjwyatt

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Jul 1, 2021

#226

Another trendy Trabant story:

https://www.nydailynews.com/autos/latest-reviews/what-its-like-to-drive-a-trabant-article-1.3725679

This reminds me of the Kiev:

"Besides the fact that it was manufactured largely unchanged from 1957 to 1991..."

The Kiev was designed in the mid-1930s and (with a few small modifications) was produced into the 1980s (my 4a is 1978 I think)- and I am not counting the Kiev 5. The difference between the Trabant and the Kiev, is the Kiev is a good design and a very decent camera.

NB23

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Jul 1, 2021

#227

Trabant, they’re made of cardboard.

markjwyatt

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Jul 1, 2021

#228

NB23 said:
Trabant, they’re made of cardboard.

Plastic (kind of like a Corvette).

Pieter12

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Jul 1, 2021

#229

NB23 said:
Trabant, they’re made of cardboard.

You'd be surprised at what some cars are (or at least were) made of. My 80's BMW 320i had fiberboard interior door panels and under-dash panels.

NB23

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Jul 2, 2021

#230

The trabant of my childhoood were clearly made from some kind of cardboard/mashed asbestos material

Radost

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Jul 2, 2021

#231

NB23 said:
The trabant of my childhoood were clearly made from some kind of cardboard/mashed asbestos material

Same. I actually hit a parked on with my bike and my knee made a whole in the driver door. If that was metal my knee would have been shuttered.

Radost

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Jul 2, 2021

#232

markjwyatt said:
Plastic (kind of like a Corvette).

Fiberglass is ways stronger than the Trabant cardboard.

Radost

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Jul 2, 2021

#233

This is the the factory.
TRABANT CAR FACTORY (+Quality check): ManufacturingProduction line – Zwickau factory(Germany) - YouTube

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Jul 2, 2021

#234

Radost said:
Fiberglass is ways stronger than the Trabant cardboard.

and to think that dude goes 200+Km/h in a cardboard car? guy's got a death wish

markjwyatt

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Jul 2, 2021

#235

Radost said:
Fiberglass is ways stronger than the Trabant cardboard.

I was being facetious.

faberryman

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Jul 2, 2021

#236

The Trabant body was made from a miracle material called Duroplast. You can read about it in the font of all knowledge, Wikipedia, or go straight to the source, www.duroplast.com/en/products.html.

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Europan

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Jul 2, 2021

#237

Yeah, a Leica is a Kleinbild camera, small format. I prefer my four-five Anniversary Folmer Graflex. The best part of a Leica is a Summicron but a Leicina 8 S has a Summicron, too. Reason for the S in the designation. Leitz never told that. https://jimdo-storage.global.ssl.fa...46be-a9c4-79af0f33b9bb/Die Leicina ist 60.pdf

faberryman

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Jul 2, 2021

#238

Europan said:
Yeah, a Leica is a Kleinbild camera, small format. I prefer my four-five Anniversary Folmer Graflex. The best part of a Leica is a Summicron but a Leicina 8 S has a Summicron, too. Reason for the S in the designation. Leitz never told that. https://jimdo-storage.global.ssl.fastly.net/file/28f17f54-9806-46be-a9c4-79af0f33b9bb/Die Leicina ist 60.pdf

There is a Summicron lens on the new Leica cellphone, which is a rebadged Sharp Aquos R6, whatever that is. The Leica glow will set you back $1700 when available.

https://www.engadget.com/leica-leitz-phone-1-japan-softbank-price-availability-054216785.html

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Huss

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Jul 2, 2021

#239

Morgan still makes its car with ashwood frames, no?

I never liked the Aero8, it looked cross-eyed with those headlights, but the Plus-Six? Oh man...

David Lindquist

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Jul 2, 2021

#240

Huss said:
Morgan still makes its car with ashwood frames, no?

I never liked the Aero8, it looked cross-eyed with those headlights, but the Plus-Six? Oh man...

Just looked at the Morgan website. My understanding from it is that a "bonded aluminum platform" has replaced the steel chassis. I think the body panels were, and it looks like still are, applied to an ash wood frame. Thank you for making me aware of the Aero 8, I actually kinda like its looks but would prefer a Plus 4 or 6. Over the past year I briefly fantasized off and on about the revived three wheel Morgan but I understand its been discontinued.

At this point in my life I think I'll let my lust for fine classic machinery be satisfied by my Monarch 10EE toolmaker's lathe,

As for the Trabant, it makes the Yugo look good.

David

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#241

faberryman said:
The Trabant body was made from a miracle material called Duroplast. You can read about it in the font of all knowledge, Wikipedia, or go straight to the source, www.duroplast.com/en/products.html.

made from recycled low grade soviet cotton waste and phenol from the dye industry..
that's good stuff!

NB23

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Jul 2, 2021

#242

jnantz said:
made from recycled low grade soviet cotton waste and phenol from the dye industry..
that's good stuff!

Actually, what’s good about the trabant, moskvitch and all those carsthat used cardboard/duroplast/cotton fiber is that they don’t rust. They are very charming in the setting of old european villages. If they were rusted, they’d be unbearable to look at. As it is, they’re cute.

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cliveh

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Jul 2, 2021

#243

As we have had the Trebant manufacture video, here is the Aston Martin version (a bit like a Leica manufacture)

Pieter12

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Jul 2, 2021

#244

David Lindquist said:
Just looked at the Morgan website. My understanding from it is that a "bonded aluminum platform" has replaced the steel chassis. I think the body panels were, and it looks like still are, applied to an ash wood frame. Thank you for making me aware of the Aero 8, I actually kinda like its looks but would prefer a Plus 4 or 6. Over the past year I briefly fantasized off and on about the revived three wheel Morgan but I understand its been discontinued.

At this point in my life I think I'll let my lust for fine classic machinery be satisfied by my Monarch 10EE toolmaker's lathe,

As for the Trabant, it makes the Yugo look good.

David

Depends on the model--the Morgan West Coast distributor is located not far from me, I might just pop by and ask. My understanding is the Plus 4 has an ash body, frame is steel (maybe aluminum now), body is aluminum and steel. But the neat one is the 3-wheeler with the v-twin motor exposed in front.

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#245

NB23 said:
Actually, what’s good about the trabant, moskvitch and all those carsthat used cardboard/duroplast/cotton fiber is that they don’t rust. They are very charming in the setting of old european villages. If they were rusted, they’d be unbearable to look at. As it is, they’re cute.

not only are they cute and don't rust they might have been made from uncle Joe or uncle leonid's old discarded tighty whiteys !

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Huss

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Jul 2, 2021

#246

jnantz said:
not only are they cute and don't rust they might have been made from uncle Joe or uncle leonid's old discarded tighty whiteys !

Imagine that, a car that actually has skid marks!

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Jul 3, 2021

#247

Huss said:
Imagine that, a car that actually has skid marks!

LOL !

Don Heisz said:
Oh no .... not again!

See: https://www.photrio.com/forum/threa...l-photographs-here.184976/page-2#post-2436418

sadly it comes up a blank page, at times I wish I had less self control to to take people off ignore and see what all the hubbub was about !
just call me Jorge, I have about 200 people on ignore so it could be virtually anyone !

markjwyatt said:
Agreed. So which would you pick if you had the choice of the two I laid out (an excellent mechanic who uses Craftsmen tools, or a lousy one that uses Snap-On)?

I'd pick the one who has the better roach-coach that comes at 1030, or the nicer receptionist, its usually the craftsman person, snap on people are so you know high brow...

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Don_ih

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Jul 3, 2021

#248

jnantz said:
I have about 200 people on ignore

Open the link in a different browser - one in which you are not logged into the forum. You can "spy" on those you ignore thusly.

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#249

Don Heisz said:
Open the link in a different browser - one in which you are not logged into the forum. You can "spy" on those you ignore thusly.

as much as I would like to do that as mentioned I have very little self control and I might say or do something I might regret !
how about an art history type description of what is being depicted in the link for those of us who are unable to see it 1st hand ?

Don_ih

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Jul 3, 2021

#250

jnantz said:
as much as I would like to do that as mentioned I have very little self control and I might say or do something I might regret !
how about an art history type description of what is being depicted in the link for those of us who are unable to see it 1st hand ?

Photos.

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