Leica photographers - the naked truth

[removed account4]

it never ceases to amaze me how obnoxious sales people and photographers can be ...

 

[fdonadio]

obnoxious

I love this word. We don’t have a direct equivalent in Portuguese.

 

[removed account4]

I love this word. We don’t have a direct equivalent in Portuguese.

its too bad you don't have a slang that has the same equivalent meaning
you know like an idiom that is the embodiment of the word, but something else
maybe a great equivalent would be like " leica vendedora "

 

[fdonadio]

maybe a great equivalent would be like " leica vendedora "

Risking being obnoxious myself, the correct would be “vendedor de Leica” or a variation on that. We need these pesky prepositions like “de” or “do” to give different meanings. So, “vendedor de Leica” is someone who sells Leicas and “vendedor da Leica” implies that the salesman works at/for Leica. For the female gender, it’s “vendedora”.

But we do have slang that have (has?) almost the same meaning as “obnoxious”. We don’t have a proper, formal word, though.

To be honest, I had a very positive experience at the Konstanz (Germany) Leica Store. I was going to buy me a t-shirt, but they didn’t have my size. The salesman was very nice and said nothing about my Nikon FM2.

 

[removed account4]

Risking being obnoxious myself, the correct would be “vendedor de Leica” or a variation on that. We need these pesky prepositions like “de” or “do” to give different meanings. So, “vendedor de Leica” is someone who sells Leicas and “vendedor da Leica” implies that the salesman works at/for Leica. For the female gender, it’s “vendedora”.

But we do have slang that have (has?) almost the same meaning as “obnoxious”. We don’t have a proper, formal word, though.

To be honest, I had a very positive experience at the Konstanz (Germany) Leica Store. I was going to buy me a t-shirt, but they didn’t have my size. The salesman was very nice and said nothing about my Nikon FM2.

ya I was ( kind of being obnoxious making believe I knew more than infantile slang like xixi nas calças ) using google translate ! if I was in my old stomping grounds, I could have asked a neighbor
did the T shirt say " I went to the Leica Store and all I could afford was this T shirt "
How does it work with the Portuguese language to get a word inserted in the lexicon ?
I once chatted (27 years ago? ) with someone at "merriam webster dictionary" and back in the day, at least for the English language
the word needed to appear in "print" 5 or 10 times ( I can't remember which ) and then it would be inserted in the dictionary and become a real word
( or it was something like that )
now with the internet and mass-pop culture its a bit different, seeing in English words like "dumpster-fire" and "ermm" are words. ... but still...
I've been trying to get the word numismaphobia ( fear of pocket change ) published enough but ... hasn't happened yet . one day, like you I will have my word be a word !

 

[Patrick Robert James]

it never ceases to amaze me how obnoxious sales people and photographers can be ...

I was in a camera store a long time ago looking for a battery pack that had just been released for a Canon. I asked a sales person after waiting. He just looked at me and said "I don't know. I use Nikon" then turned and walked away! Lol. Helix in Chicago. I had a running joke with a friend that whenever either of us said Helix the other would interrupt the other by gruffly saying, "whattyawant!"

 

[removed account4]

"I don't know. I use Nikon" then turned and walked away!

now that's what I call customer service !

 

[fdonadio]

xixi nas calças

Where did you learn that? You had a Brazilian or Portuguese neighbor?

did the T shirt say " I went to the Leica Store and all I could afford was this T shirt "

That would have been cool, but it was a black t-shirt with the Noctilux aperture scale on the front and the red dot on the back. It was affordable (especially when compared to other stuff on sale), but not cheap at all. IIRC, something around 25€! Of course, being a Leica t-shirt, I would never need any other t-shirt in my life. It would go very well with Leica jeans, but remember you only ever need to carry one t-shirt and one pair of jeans!

How does it work with the Portuguese language to get a word inserted in the lexicon ?

There’s an entity called Brazilian Literary Academy (my translation could be wrong) and, ultimately, they decide which words get included. They will vote new proposed words every year. But I believe Brazilian dictionaries will include a word, like Merriam-Webster, if they can verify the word is actually in use (or has been used for some time l).

 

[Huss]

Where did you learn that? You had a Brazilian or Portuguese neighbor?



That would have been cool, but it was a black t-shirt with the Noctilux aperture scale on the front and the red dot on the back. It was affordable (especially when compared to other stuff on sale), but not cheap at all. IIRC, something around 25€! Of course, being a Leica t-shirt, I would never need any other t-shirt in my life. It would go very well with Leica jeans, but remember you only ever need to carry one t-shirt and one pair of jeans!

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Standard T-shirts from mass market mall shops cost $30 now. One that has an image of a Leica on it for that little is quite the bargain!

 

[flavio81]

I visited the Lisbon (Portugal) Leica Store and was taking a look at the shelves of film cameras (that every Leica Shop I’ve ever visited has).

A salesman came and asked me if I needed something. I told him I was just taking a look at the beautiful cameras that, unfortunately, I couldn’t afford at the moment.

Then, he asked if I was a photographer. I confirmed and told him I was even carrying two Nikons in my bag at that moment. He told me to keep them in the bag, so they wouldn’t be embarrassed by all the Leicas around them.

I left the store as soon as I could.

You should have replied "I'll make sure not to push the trigger of my Nikon F2 inside the store, otherwise the clack sound will misalign the rangefinders on your Leicas"

 

[fdonadio]

You should have replied "I'll make sure not to push the trigger of my Nikon F2 inside the store, otherwise the clack sound will misalign the rangefinders on your Leicas"

That would be cool. Now I regret not having my Hasselblad there with me. Just imagine what that KA-KLUNK sound from the barn doors would do?

Next day, on the news: “a 7.0 point earthquake struck Lisbon yesterday, leaving hundreds injured, missing or just plain stunned. The epicenter appears to be the town’s Leica Store, where a Brazilian photographer decided to take pictures with his Hasselblad camera, after being taunted by one of the shop’s salesman.”

 

[flavio81]

That would be cool. Now I regret not having my Hasselblad there with me. Just imagine what that KA-KLUNK sound from the barn doors would do?

Next day, on the news: “a 7.0 point earthquake struck Lisbon yesterday, leaving hundreds injured, missing or just plain stunned. The epicenter appears to be the town’s Leica Store, where a Brazilian photographer decided to take pictures with his Hasselblad camera, after being taunted by one of the shop’s salesman.”

If the hassy is a 7.0 earthquake, the old 60s Bronicas will destroy planet earth!

 

[flavio81]

I love this word. We don’t have a direct equivalent in Portuguese.

"odioso"

"desagradável"

"pessoa com uma Leica"

 

[fdonadio]

"odioso"

"desagradável"

"pessoa com uma Leica"

“Odioso” has a direct equivalent in English: “hateful”. “Desagradável” too: “unpleasant”.

“Obnoxious” is one of those words that not only have a meaning, but conceives this meaning through the way it sounds. I dare say the word “obnoxious” is obnoxious by itself.

 

[MattKing]

I always think of "noxious" as being the root of "obnoxious".

 

[film_man]

For those who think Leicas are expensive (even the "special editions") let me introduce you to this H6D-100c Medium Format DSLR Camera (Body Only) - Hasselblad Store

Or if you want to keep it analog...here's how to spend your pesos in style: LULF | F-Line | Kameras | arca-shop.de

I mean, frankly speaking you can turn up with your M10R and a 75 Noct on it and you'd still look like a pleb next to those.

 

[fdonadio]

I mean, frankly speaking you can turn up with your M10R and a 75 Noct on it and you'd still look like a pleb next to those.

Yea, there are more expensive cameras, for sure. But I don’t believe there are that many (if any) 35mm rangefinders more expensive than a Leica.

 

[removed account4]

Yea, there are more expensive cameras, for sure. But I don’t believe there are that many (if any) 35mm rangefinders more expensive than a Leica.

not sure about new ones but this one
https://www.cameraquest.com/LeicaM4G.htm
I think says it all ...

Where did you learn that? You had a Brazilian or Portuguese neighbor?

while I lived someplace filled with people from Brazil years ago, I'm friends with someone who used to work with someone from Portugal
its the only Portuguese I know. LOL

 

[Dismayed]

I reach for my Mamiya 7 II when I care about quality.

 

[Arthurwg]

I was looking through my copy of AP's "Vietnam: The Real War," a great compendium of war photographs and the occasional portrait of the photographers. There were a few Leicas dangling from their necks, but many more Nikons. In one reprinted letter, AP's Saigon's photo editor asks for new Nikons and lenses lost in battle. adding, . "We have no need for more Leitz equipment here."

 

[Don_ih]

if you approach ANY web forum with the idea that substantiated facts are going to satisfy those who thrive on conflict, and displace misinformation 100% of the time

I don't think that. The point is to never encourage the spread of misinformation.

people don't care about "facts"

People do care about facts, but they are often wrong about what is a fact.

Anyway, back to regularly scheduled programming. Last night, I watched a Leica IIIg, worth about $600, sell for $1250 on an auction site (not ebay). I hope, for the sake of the buyer, that it actually works.

 

[removed account4]

People do care about facts, but they are often wrong about what is a fact.

do you mean they say black is white and up is down for the sake of trolling people?
I don't really think that is being wrong, I think that is not caring ..
like suggesting jerry uelsmann isn't a photographer, shame on them.

 

[Pieter12]

but they are often wrong about what is a fact.

People sometimes take for a fact something that has been told to them or that they have read that lines up with their own (or peer group's) thinking or beliefs.They usually do not check these "facts" to see whether they are substantiated or urban myths.

 

[Craig75]

The triggered mind Gardens are well and truly in full bloom.

A strong win for the OP

 

[Huss]

The triggered mind Gardens are well and truly in full bloom.

A strong win for the OP

I was just the little snowball at the top of the mountain.