ID-11 alternative?

[Trask]

Just how fresh is too fresh? How long does it take to ripen?

Good questions! Let's hope those-in-the-know kick in...

 

[Keith Tapscott.]

You wont regret using D76, it is a superb reliable developer and very consistant.

Yes, although I think Daniela is using the Adox version rather than the Kodak.

 

[pbromaghin]

Good questions! Let's hope those-in-the-know kick in...

This week I will finally run out of the last bit of purchased D76 and start homebrewing it, taking off the D23 training wheels.

 

[Don_ih]

This week I will finally run out of the last bit of purchased D76 and start homebrewing it, taking off the D23 training wheels.

My advice, after years of D76 use, is to also mix up an equal amount of D76Replenisher. Say, 1 litre of each. You develop your film in stock D76, pour ~25ml/per film (you might want to look that up - I generally shoot short rolls) of replenisher in the stock bottle, pour your freshly used developer back in the stock bottle. So it lasts until both bottles are empty.

 

[pbromaghin]

My advice, after years of D76 use, is to also mix up an equal amount of D76Replenisher. Say, 1 litre of each. You develop your film in stock D76, pour ~25ml/per film (you might want to look that up - I generally shoot short rolls) of replenisher in the stock bottle, pour your freshly used developer back in the stock bottle. So it lasts until both bottles are empty.

That's good advice, but I think I personally won't have a high enough volume or frequency to successfully run a replenishment scheme. I'll most likely be mixing up a quart at a time and using it full strength right away.

 

[Don_ih]

That's good advice, but I think I personally won't have a high enough volume or frequency to successfully run a replenishment scheme. I'll most likely be mixing up a quart at a time and using it full strength right away.

It lasts months.

 

[pbromaghin]

It lasts months.

Ok, so we get to the ripening process/time. I have read that working solution goes through quite dramatic changes in power, and that the replenishment settles this down. How does it behave over those months? And how do you handle the replenisher being replaced by air in the bottle? With Kodak powder 1-gal I have been putting it into quart bottles with the air squeezed out and using each bottle within a couple days of opening.

 

[Don_ih]

Ok, so we get to the ripening process/time. I have read that working solution goes through quite dramatic changes in power, and that the replenishment settles this down. How does it behave over those months? And how do you handle the replenisher being replaced by air in the bottle? With Kodak powder 1-gal I have been putting it into quart bottles with the air squeezed out and using each bottle within a couple days of opening.

I don't worry about those things. I squeeze the air out of the replenisher bottle (I use smaller bottles). I have never noticed any dramatic change in any D76 I mixed up. I think those "dramatic" changes may amount to a 1/4 stop push if you ignore them - which I don't care about.

If you don't want multiple bottles of replenisher hanging around, mix up smaller amounts. But I don't think it would be advisable to replenish after you have used the same volume replenisher as original stock. Too much byproduct buildup.

You would notice the inside of your stock bottle will get very dirty. It's kind of impressive.

 

[pbromaghin]

I don't worry about those things. I squeeze the air out of the replenisher bottle (I use smaller bottles). I have never noticed any dramatic change in any D76 I mixed up. I think those "dramatic" changes may amount to a 1/4 stop push if you ignore them - which I don't care about.

If you don't want multiple bottles of replenisher hanging around, mix up smaller amounts. But I don't think it would be advisable to replenish after you have used the same volume replenisher as original stock. Too much byproduct buildup.

You would notice the inside of your stock bottle will get very dirty. It's kind of impressive.

Don, thank you. This is very reassuring. I did D23 replenishing for a while and will give this a try.

 

[Agulliver]

ID-11 now in stock at Nik & Trick, and I would assume all good retailers.

 

[DeletedAcct1]

ID-11 now in stock at Nik & Trick, and I would assume all good retailers.

That's the old Id-11. The new Id-11 has a different package.

https://www.ilfordphoto.com/id-11-product

 

[william lester]

That's the old Id-11. The new Id-11 has a different package.

https://www.ilfordphoto.com/id-11-product

The new release of ID11 has been available from Amplis for at least the last month.

 

[Don_ih]

The new release of ID11 has been available from Amplis for at least the last month.

You've been here 10 years - congratulations on your first post!
Did Amplis actually have it or did they have it as special order? Ilford's Instagram has been saying that ID11 will be in stock soon.

 

[Agulliver]

I don't think it is the old ID-11 given that N&T as well as other retailers have been out of stock for months. N&T went as far as to get Bellini to manufacture a D76 clone and sell it under the N&T brand name. They specifically have a photo of the new packaging and say it is new stock.

 

[DeletedAcct1]

I don't think it is the old ID-11 given that N&T as well as other retailers have been out of stock for months. N&T went as far as to get Bellini to manufacture a D76 clone and sell it under the N&T brand name. They specifically have a photo of the new packaging and say it is new stock.

Ilford ID-11 B&W Film Developer ~ One Litre or Five Litre - Nik & Trick Photo Services

Ilford ID-11 B&W Film Developer is a fine grain developer for all general film processing requirements, it has been around for a lifetime!

ntphotoworks.com

still the old pic...

 

[william lester]

You've been here 10 years - congratulations on your first post!
Did Amplis actually have it or did they have it as special order? Ilford's Instagram has been saying that ID11 will be in stock soon.

Don. It is in stock at Amplis. I’ve purchased it twice in the last month.

 

[Don_ih]

Don. It is in stock at Amplis. I’ve purchased it twice in the last month.

Thanks or letting me know.

 

[MattKing]

Ilford ID-11 B&W Film Developer ~ One Litre or Five Litre - Nik & Trick Photo Services

Ilford ID-11 B&W Film Developer is a fine grain developer for all general film processing requirements, it has been around for a lifetime!

ntphotoworks.com

still the old pic...

Not an uncommon problem - a lot of websites are slow at updating the pictures.
Or alternatively, they may have sourced older inventory.
It is hard to tell.

 

[Don_ih]

a lot of websites are slow at updating the pictures.

Given the insignificant difference between the way the old and new packaging looks, I'm not surprised the picture isn't updated.

 

[Daniela]

Just received the newly designed ID11. Looks nice, except for the spelling error in Spanish I wonder if that's the reason a picture of the old packaging is still on the websites I order from... Link to picture because I can't attach it...

 

[miha]

Just received the newly designed ID11. Looks nice, except for the spelling error in Spanish I wonder if that's the reason a picture of the old packaging is still on the websites I order from... Link to picture because I can't attach it...

Are any instructions for use printed on the back, or does it just say to go online to get them?

 

[Daniela]

Are any instructions for use printed on the back, or does it just say to go online to get them?

You have to go to the website. It's written under the pen in the picture.

 

[miha]

Thanks @Daniela.

 

[Mick Fagan]

Daniela, are there two packages inside, or is it just one lot of dry chemistry all mixed up?

I'm not asking because I'm thinking of purchasing, I'm just wondering.

 

[brian steinberger]

Daniela, are there two packages inside, or is it just one lot of dry chemistry all mixed up?

I'm not asking because I'm thinking of purchasing, I'm just wondering.

It’s still two separate packages.