Yes, David Bias repeated various times the bottleneck was in the finishing partner, not them, and the delay is due to having to setup finishing in house.
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there's always a good reason why Ferrania cannot deliver what promised. As I said, I can only see colour happening if they'd partner up with some serius manufacturer.
Whether that is what they are using is another matter. It may not be up and running or they may be using another machine.
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Whatever. What I see here is a fledgling company that's managed to raise Eur 1.8M (of which 0.3M came from Kickstarter), to enable a dream. They're doing a heck of a bang-up job: just staying alive at all this long is way more than one could realistically hope for! Now it turns out that they're doing work for a scientific laboratory, which, along with the (small) income they make selling interim products to us punters, will keep them going while they continue to evolve...
Lots of people are blowing off steam here, complaining about how their little contribution hasn't paid off yet. Me, I'm excited about the increasingly cool project I'm privileged to say I was part of from the beginning!
Lots of people are blowing off steam here, complaining about how their little contribution hasn't paid off yet. Me, I'm excited about the increasingly cool project I'm privileged to say I was part of from the beginning!
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Well Berri, you´re one of the best. You didn´t invest money but you complain for a pretty long time now and you´re just lying. Ferrania never took the money for color-film, but TO SAVE THE MACHINES. Once and for all. I know there´s a Donald Trump in power right now and since George W. Bush it´s "cool" to ignore facts, but come on man at least try to be fair. If you´re having a bad feeling then do it like Han Solo and say: "I´m having a bad feeling about this" - but please don´t lie. And, by the way, EVERONE here has noticed that you´re having a bad feeling about this - yes we all know that for sure now.
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I´m not angry at you, i´m sorry for you as you must have serious trouble in your life when all you can do here is paint things black and turn around facts - therefore i wish all the best for you and get well soon, honest man. God bless you. I really mean it, this is not an insult, ok?
Come back to the "honest side" of the force!
Well said! Berri all too often seems intent on rubbishing Ferrania's name using "alternative facts". I just don't see how that sort of attitude can help or take anything forward.
If someone had invested money on a particular promise which didn't come to fruition then they'd have a right to moan. If someone didn't invest, changed the promise to fit their own parameters then labelled it a failure despite evidence to the contrary, you have to wonder what they're hoping to achieve.
I also don´t get it. I mean Berry appears to be italian, Ferrania was a huge italian brand, a traditional brand - and now they´re trying to resurect a factory and an iconic film (P30) with just a bunch of guys fighting ridiculous obstacles, still not giving up during "digital wars". It´s an awesome adventure, a real one!
Of course Berry musn´t, but he could be so proud of them, as an italian analog shooter.
And he didn´t even invest. It´s just head-shaking.
don't need to patronize me. for what it may matter to you, I don't have any trouble in life nor I like painting things black. If I was under the impression that ferrania boasted that they would have made colour reversal filma available again, and I'm wrong, I don't have any problem apologizing. You should respect my opinion as I respect yours, I NEVER said to anyone here ore anywhere else that, and I quote, "You must have serious trouble in your life" I consider that an insult because your assumption is based on my personal opinion on a fact.
perhaps is because I'm italian that I know how this things work here; you invest a lot of money in something that you know it will never achieve its goals, then you wait for the state to put a load more of money in the failed project and that may go on for decades. A company either work out to be succesfull or should shut down, not just float around by means of state money.
Before anyone cry out "blashemy!", I'm not refering to Ferrania, it is just a "bad feeling"
Do I remember wrong or by the time ferrania started the kikstarter had a timeline in which it was included the production of colour reversal film. Alternative facts a bair of balls
Sorry but you don't make any sense mate. Do you have opinions only in things you invested in? Do you have the right to moan only about things you invested in? Anywhay I don't really moan about ferrania, all I'm saying is that, in my opinion, they failed to keep up whith what they promised. producing a poor quality and expansive ISO 12 BW film in the place of a top quality colour reversal film I wouldn't exactly call it a big success, perhaps not a total failure, but most definitelly it's not a success at all.
I don't hope to achive nothing, I'm just exercising my freedom of speach, possibly trying not to insult or being insulted.
Here here! It's clear to anyone who's read all Ferrania's updates that this is what's going on. I'm disappointed they haven't achieved what they hoped to, as Ferrania themselves clearly are too. Using every possible opportunity on this and other threads to call Ferrania a failure is hugely unhelpful, untrue, and (I think I speak for a lot of people here) just downright annoying.
I do not read Italian and had to rely on the Google Translate version of the article, but it was not clear that Film Ferrania had raised 1.8 million dollars. The total seem to include the investment by Val Bormida in 2009 to renovate the technology park where Film Ferrania has its space. Perhaps Berri could read the article in Italian and clarify.
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It seems 1.5m + 300k from kickstarter? And then an investment of 1.8 for the renovation of the whole technology park. The article does not make it clear if the 300k is included in the 1.5m or not, but it says "complessivo" (overall), and by the (very bad) phrasing it could include or not the next sentence (the article is a good example of bad Italian).
I often find very bad errors even in the online version of various big national (Italian) newspapers. I find it very embarrassing and it shows there was no proofreading whatsoever.
Of course there are publications that still maintain a high standard of journalism and writing. But sadly, they are exceptions to the general drop in quality which is evident in much of the less prestigious media.
Is Savona News, the paper in which the Film Ferrania article appeared, a major newspaper?
Sorry you find my opinion annoyng. Perhaps you should open a private discussion where us infidels can't join.
I seriously don't mean to get on you guys nerves, I also respect your loyalty to Ferrania and I whish them the best, seriously. I had the chance to meet Marco Pagni in person many times as he runs a cine lab in Florence and is a loveley guy, and really professional at what he does, so I don't have anything against them. My opinion is that ferrania is a bigger project than what it may look when it got started and there is no way they will produce colour film in the next few years to come. Sorry, that is my opinion, I hope I'm wrong as I'd love to buy and shoot their colour film. What I said before, and I repeat myself, is that they should make some sort of joint venture with another european manufacturer, share their passione and love for the project and overcome the many issues they are facing, for film sake. I don't think people would look at them with disrespect if they'd decide to do so one day.
It is a local news paper. As far as I know, no national NP or TV has said anything about this project, but I may be wrong as I don't whatch a lot of tv. If you link me the article, I could try to clarify a little bit
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