Yes, David Bias repeated various times the bottleneck was in the finishing partner, not them, and the delay is due to having to setup finishing in house.
there's always a good reason why Ferrania cannot deliver what promised. As I said, I can only see colour happening if they'd partner up with some serius manufacturer.Yes, David Bias repeated various times the bottleneck was in the finishing partner, not them, and the delay is due to having to setup finishing in house.
According to Photo Engineer they have state of the art equipment (post #2664 in this thread).
Actually I did not contribute. I don't think that just staying aslive would be enough for backers though. Ferrania got money to make colour reversal film ant this is a fact, like a fact it's that colour rev. film won't happen any time soon.Whatever. What I see here is a fledgling company that's managed to raise Eur 1.8M (of which 0.3M came from Kickstarter), to enable a dream. They're doing a heck of a bang-up job: just staying alive at all this long is way more than one could realistically hope for! Now it turns out that they're doing work for a scientific laboratory, which, along with the (small) income they make selling interim products to us punters, will keep them going while they continue to evolve...
Lots of people are blowing off steam here, complaining about how their little contribution hasn't paid off yet. Me, I'm excited about the increasingly cool project I'm privileged to say I was part of from the beginning!
Whatever. What I see here is a fledgling company that's managed to raise Eur 1.8M (of which 0.3M came from Kickstarter), to enable a dream. They're doing a heck of a bang-up job: just staying alive at all this long is way more than one could realistically hope for! Now it turns out that they're doing work for a scientific laboratory, which, along with the (small) income they make selling interim products to us punters, will keep them going while they continue to evolve...
Lots of people are blowing off steam here, complaining about how their little contribution hasn't paid off yet. Me, I'm excited about the increasingly cool project I'm privileged to say I was part of from the beginning!
Actually I did not contribute. I don't think that just staying aslive would be enough for backers though. Ferrania got money to make colour reversal film ant this is a fact, like a fact it's that colour rev. film won't happen any time soon.
Well Berri, you´re one of the best. You didn´t invest money but you complain for a pretty long time now and you´re just lying. Ferrania never took the money for color-film, but TO SAVE THE MACHINES. Once and for all. I know there´s a Donald Trump in power right now and since George W. Bush it´s "cool" to ignore facts, but come on man at least try to be fair. If you´re having a bad feeling then do it like Han Solo and say: "I´m having a bad feeling about this" - but please don´t lie. And, by the way, EVERONE here has noticed that you´re having a bad feeling about this - yes we all know that for sure now.
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I´m not angry at you, i´m sorry for you as you must have serious trouble in your life when all you can do here is paint things black and turn around facts - therefore i wish all the best for you and get well soon, honest man. God bless you. I really mean it, this is not an insult, ok?
Come back to the "honest side" of the force!
Well said! Berri all too often seems intent on rubbishing Ferrania's name using "alternative facts". I just don't see how that sort of attitude can help or take anything forward.
If someone had invested money on a particular promise which didn't come to fruition then they'd have a right to moan. If someone didn't invest, changed the promise to fit their own parameters then labelled it a failure despite evidence to the contrary, you have to wonder what they're hoping to achieve.
don't need to patronize me. for what it may matter to you, I don't have any trouble in life nor I like painting things black. If I was under the impression that ferrania boasted that they would have made colour reversal filma available again, and I'm wrong, I don't have any problem apologizing. You should respect my opinion as I respect yours, I NEVER said to anyone here ore anywhere else that, and I quote, "You must have serious trouble in your life" I consider that an insult because your assumption is based on my personal opinion on a fact.´m not angry at you, i´m sorry for you as you must have serious trouble in your life when all you can do here is paint things black and turn around facts - therefore i wish all the best for you and get well soon, honest man. God bless you. I really mean it, this is not an insult, ok?
perhaps is because I'm italian that I know how this things work here; you invest a lot of money in something that you know it will never achieve its goals, then you wait for the state to put a load more of money in the failed project and that may go on for decades. A company either work out to be succesfull or should shut down, not just float around by means of state money.I also don´t get it. I mean Berry appears to be italian, Ferrania was a huge italian brand, a traditional brand - and now they´re trying to resurect a factory and an iconic film (P30) with just a bunch of guys fighting ridiculous obstacles, still not giving up during "digital wars". It´s an awesome adventure, a real one!
Of course Berry musn´t, but he could be so proud of them, as an italian analog shooter.
And he didn´t even invest. It´s just head-shaking.
Before anyone cry out "blashemy!", I'm not refering to Ferrania, it is just a "bad feeling"A company either work out to be succesfull or should shut down, not just float around by means of state money.
Do I remember wrong or by the time ferrania started the kikstarter had a timeline in which it was included the production of colour reversal film. Alternative facts a bair of ballsWell said! Berri all too often seems intent on rubbishing Ferrania's name using "alternative facts". I just don't see how that sort of attitude can help or take anything forward.
Sorry but you don't make any sense mate. Do you have opinions only in things you invested in? Do you have the right to moan only about things you invested in? Anywhay I don't really moan about ferrania, all I'm saying is that, in my opinion, they failed to keep up whith what they promised. producing a poor quality and expansive ISO 12 BW film in the place of a top quality colour reversal film I wouldn't exactly call it a big success, perhaps not a total failure, but most definitelly it's not a success at all.If someone had invested money on a particular promise which didn't come to fruition then they'd have a right to moan. If someone didn't invest, changed the promise to fit their own parameters then labelled it a failure despite evidence to the contrary, you have to wonder what they're hoping to achieve.
I also don´t get it. I mean Berry appears to be italian, Ferrania was a huge italian brand, a traditional brand - and now they´re trying to resurect a factory and an iconic film (P30) with just a bunch of guys fighting ridiculous obstacles, still not giving up during "digital wars". It´s an awesome adventure, a real one!
Of course Berry musn´t, but he could be so proud of them, as an italian analog shooter.
And he didn´t even invest. It´s just head-shaking.
(the article is a good example of bad Italian)
Really? I take it, then, you have never perused a copy of The New York Times, The Washington Post, or Canada's Globe and Mail. And, you have most certainly have never read an issue of The Economist. First-rate journalism, and first-rate writing in all.I think that's a global phenomenon. Journalists seem to lack the time, or the inclination, or both, to write well.
Of course there are publications that still maintain a high standard of journalism and writing. But sadly, they are exceptions to the general drop in quality which is evident in much of the less prestigious media.Really? I take it, then, you have never perused a copy of The New York Times, The Washington Post, or Canada's Globe and Mail. And, you have most certainly have never read an issue of The Economist. First-rate journalism, and first-rate writing in all.
Sorry you find my opinion annoyng. Perhaps you should open a private discussion where us infidels can't join.Using every possible opportunity on this and other threads to call Ferrania a failure is hugely unhelpful, untrue, and (I think I speak for a lot of people here) just downright annoying.
It is a local news paper. As far as I know, no national NP or TV has said anything about this project, but I may be wrong as I don't whatch a lot of tv. If you link me the article, I could try to clarify a little bitIs Savona News, the paper in which the Film Ferrania article appeared, a major newspaper?
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