You are totally right, and this is exactly what I'm blaming Ferrania for. Because they've never been realistic with their time table.making a new film is something that might take years even if you are an already active film manufacturing factory. Ferrania made it sound like it was a matter of a few months before we'd seen a new colour reversal film produced in an abandoned building. As I said many times before, I'm confidential they will produce a colour reversal film but at the present time I am not sure what kind of market they are hoping to get; when this whole Ferrania project started we felt like we were in need of a new colour reversal film because Fuji chromes were uncertain, and Kodak discontinued Ektachrome. Five years later we still have CT precisa, a cheap reversal film, fujicolor velvia and provia are still there and Kodak is bringing back Ektachrome.Adox is going to take 6-9 months (starting to look more like a year) just to transfer production of an existing B&W emulsion to another active machine that didn't spend 10 years in mothballs.
People, take a pill or something.
The kickstarter funds were EXPLICITLY for the purpose of purchasing various machines, moving them from buildings which were being demolished, and reinstalling them in the LRF.
The funds were used for just that purpose.
This seems beyond the understanding of a lot of people here. I honestly wonder how you operate a box camera...and assume you dictate your posts to someone with enough brain cells to type.
Really people how many times do you have to be told what the money was for?
Seriously thinking of just giving up on APUG due to the utter idiocy on this thread.
Why are there so many medium speed aka 80-100 iso B&W films? and why add yet one more?
Especially in 35mm I just can't believe that that's the most popular speed.
Wouldn't 400 be a better choice if you release in 35mm ?
Because, an ISO 80 - 100 film is far easier to produce!
great reason for all the companies to put out more B&W film that we don't need.Because, an ISO 80 - 100 film is far easier to produce!
Except p30 is a unique B&W film that already is giving good feedback from the alpha shooters.great reason for all the companies to put out more B&W film that we don't need.
HOPE , THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR FERRANIA ! WHY WOULD ANYONE WHO LOVES FILM THINK ANY OTHER WAY ? The Italian people create so many beautiful products . Coating and selling film is monumental , each meter is pushing back the potential extinction of one of the world's great photographic companies .
Mike
Except p30 is a unique B&W film that already is giving good feedback from the alpha shooters.
It's taken 4 years to produce a B&W film, the delays being largely due to unexpected problems, mostly unforseeable, and underatndably beyond Ferrania's best efforts.
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Ferrania made it sound like it was a matter of a few months before we'd seen a new colour reversal film produced in an abandoned building. As I said many times before, I'm confidential they will produce a colour reversal film but at the present time I am not sure what kind of market they are hoping to get; when this whole Ferrania project started we felt like we were in need of a new colour reversal film because Fuji chromes were uncertain, and Kodak discontinued Ektachrome. Five years later we still have CT precisa, a cheap reversal film, fujicolor velvia and provia are still there and Kodak is bringing back Ektachrome.
All we have today from Ferrania is (yet) another black and white film.
(bold is mine)
Again, as for my previous post, the question is: where do you count the duration of the effort from?
Why saying "five years later"?
If you wish to be so pedantic, I quote again from the the Kickstarter Prospectus:-
"In 2012 our founders, Nicola and Marco, knocked on the factory door and FILM Ferrania, named in homage to the original 1923 company, was born."
"We have set up our new operations in the former Ferrania Research & Development (Dead Link Removed) building, which contains a miniature film production line. Our team has been working for more than a year to refurbish and re-engineer this building to prepare it to start. We can make film from this facility, but only a small amount - at a high cost."
OTOH, all that really matters the fact is we're well into 2017, and the film market, particularly for E6, has changed significantly since 2012 when the project was conceived. Is the original project still viable?.....I really hope so, but my own business training and experience keeps ringing alarm bells for them. IDK?
great reason for all the companies to put out more B&W film that we don't need.
Slightly OT: Efke 50 was also a unique film - until you decided on 8x10 format. I've had so much headache seeing all the blotches clearly visible in larger homogenous-tone areas - on film developed in a Jobo 3004 for a client. He switched to Foma 200 - as Ilford costs an arm and a leg. No blotches. Hopefully Ferrania coats p30 on large format without blotches AND without excessive price.
I am quite aware of this Efke problem. They were using an ancient trough coater that left a lot to be desired. The Ferrania equipment I have seen is state of the art, pretty much.
PE
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