Harman Photo cryptic announcement/teaser

[bardamu]

Don't generalise, for the Netherlands, you can drop of E6 in over 500 HEMA stores and pick them up a couple of days later for €4... Developing is done by Fujifilm.

interesting, do they develop formats other than 35mm ?

 

[analogwisdom]

Whatever they reveal, I hope it's not just 35mm. I moved on from 35mm quite a while ago, it just wasn't the format for me.

 

[Ernst-Jan]

interesting, do they develop formats other than 35mm ?

Yes, also 120. Until a few months also 110, but now they changed some things, if you want 120 not cut, you pay more because then it's not a automated process anymore.

 

[Nopo]

The move harman is making, with the inclusion of a photographic walkthrough, has only two prospects in my view, color film or an instax film system/Polaroid.

Carlos

 

[koraks]

Don't generalise, for the Netherlands, you can drop of E6 in over 500 HEMA stores and pick them up a couple of days later for €4... Developing is done by Fujifilm.

There's a little more to that story. Let's say that for E6 it's a little less clear cut than that.

interesting, do they develop formats other than 35mm ?

Yes, 120.
In principle they could do 4x5 in C41 and B&W as well, but not through HEMA. Maybe some other outlets; I've not looked into it.

 

[mshchem]

There's a little more to that story. Let's say that for E6 it's a little less clear cut than that.



Yes, 120.
In principle they could do 4x5 in C41 and B&W as well, but not through HEMA. Maybe some other outlets; I've not looked into it.

Please define HEMA?

 

[mshchem]

My suspicion is it is a Harman produced color negative film. It will be made by Harman and available in 35mm and 120. Directly competing with Kodak Gold and whatever the Fuji branded stuff is.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is connected with Alaris' decision to cut prices on Kodak Gold, to fill everyone's freezers before the Ilford product hits the market, just in time for Christmas.

Ilford should bring chemistry in house but I suspect it will be made in the USA by whoever was making Kodak's black and white chemistry, too bad as I really like the packaging Ilford has been using for liquid products.

That's my attempt at non-smart aleck remarks

 

[ags2mikon]

If wishes were horses... c-41 film without the mask!

 

[cmacd123]

If wishes were horses... c-41 film without the mask!

why would you want C-41 film with Built in errors? (and if you do, their is the AreoColor that flic film is respooling, (and other folks also) Flic calls theirs Elektra 100

 

[ags2mikon]

scanning / digital conversion.

 

[MattKing]

If wishes were horses... c-41 film without the mask!

why would you want C-41 film with Built in errors?

Exactly - and with almost the same challenges with inversion when you attempt to digitize it.

 

[Anon Ymous]

Exactly - and with almost the same challenges with inversion when you attempt to digitize it.

One could argue that with a clear base you can process the film as a positive and get slides, albeit probably wonky. Anyway, if you have any crossover, a clear base isn't going to help you.

 

[koraks]

Please define HEMA?

A chain of convenience stores around here. A bit like Walmart but a lot smaller in every way.

 

[eli griggs]

Is that a phoenix? If so, does it signify the resurrection of a product from the past?

It'd be fantastic if a new, affordable Cibachrome chemistry and quality archival papers was in the offering!

 

[albireo]

I wouldn't be surprised if this is connected with Alaris' decision to cut prices on Kodak Gold, to fill everyone's freezers before the Ilford product hits the market, just in time for Christmas.

Interesting possibility, but when are those gold 200 price cuts hitting the stores?

Just checked Macodirect and Fotoimpex and a brick of Gold 200 in 120 is 66 Euros. Sorry but no.

If it's really a colour film and Harman can do better than that price-wise I WILL fill my fridge with their stuff and bid a final farewell to Kodak (I had long abandoned the BW range and was only shooting their gold, ektar and ultramax stuff).

 

[koraks]

It'd be fantastic if a new, affordable Cibachrome chemistry and quality archival papers was in the offering!

Search results for query: cibachrome

www.photrio.com

 

[miha]

Just checked Macodirect and Fotoimpex and a brick of Gold 200 in 120 is 66 Euros. Sorry but no.

Check Nordfoto.

 

[albireo]

Check Nordfoto.

I love you!

 

[Agulliver]

It'd be fantastic if a new, affordable Cibachrome chemistry and quality archival papers was in the offering!

Over on Instagram, Harman have stated it is not a resurrection of any previously discontinued product.

Interesting possibility, but when are those gold 200 price cuts hitting the stores?

Just checked Macodirect and Fotoimpex and a brick of Gold 200 in 120 is 66 Euros. Sorry but no.

If it's really a colour film and Harman can do better than that price-wise I WILL fill my fridge with their stuff and bid a final farewell to Kodak (I had long abandoned the BW range and was only shooting their gold, ektar and ultramax stuff).

Kodak-Alaris have said that the price changes will be reflected when retailers have sold existing stock and restocked at the new prices.

If it is a colour film, price and quality as well as the actual properties of the film will inform me. If I like it and it's cheaper than the Kodak colour films, I may well switch or at least use more Harman than Kodak. Though Kodak currently has such a range of colour film, I really doubt that Harman will begin with products that match Color Plus, Ultramax, Portra 160 and Ektar....all of which I use.

 

[Don_ih]

I really doubt that Harman will begin with products that match Color Plus, Ultramax, Portra 160 and Ektar.

They would really only need one colour film to make a giant splash in the existing film market. Plus they would need to start somewhere. It would be a massive risk to try to sell multiple emulsions when they have not proven they can make even one.

 

[albireo]

Kodak-Alaris have said that the price changes will be reflected when retailers have sold existing stock and restocked at the new prices.

Good to know, thanks!

 

[Anon Ymous]

Though Kodak currently has such a range of colour film, I really doubt that Harman will begin with products that match Color Plus, Ultramax, Portra 160 and Ektar....all of which I use.

They only need to offer something that matches ColorPlus 200, or Gold. If it's priced competitively, people will buy it. Besides, it is ColorPlus and Gold that are the best sellers, being unavailable for extended periods. I have never seen the Portras and Ektar being unavailable at various major European retailers for some years now. People don't necessarily care about the finest grain or the best pallette, there's digital for this, where you're few clicks away.

 

[Agulliver]

They only need to offer something that matches ColorPlus 200, or Gold. If it's priced competitively, people will buy it. Besides, it is ColorPlus and Gold that are the best sellers, being unavailable for extended periods. I have never seen the Portras and Ektar being unavailable at various major European retailers for some years now. People don't necessarily care about the finest grain or the best pallette, there's digital for this, where you're few clicks away.

THat's what I would feel is most likely, or least unlikely, if they are launching colour negative film. But that alone won't cause people to give up Kodak because Kodak offer a much wider range of CN film than this. If they can produce something similar to Color Plus but undercut Kodak's prices, they've got me for my basic C41 use. But I'll still be buying Ultramax, Ektar and Portra 400 because I use them too. I suspect a lot of photographers are in the same boat, including the youngsters driving the upswing in CN film sales.

 

[BobUK]

A genuine Lith. film and matching chemistry would be a lovely Christmas present from Harman.
Something on the lines of the old Kodalith film.

 

[tokam]

A genuine Lith. film and matching chemistry would be a lovely Christmas present from Harman.
Something on the lines of the old Kodalith film.

It's going to be a more mainstream product that would appeal to Harman's perceived target audience in the popular social media channels. Then again as others here have said that Harman's use of social media for PR is somewhat lacking. I feel that we are a bit of an edge case for Harman or perhaps they take us, as Ilford customers, for granted.