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Peter Schrager · Jan 12, 2017

No insult to Adox but I make great warmtone prints on Foma 131/132 paper. you do not have to wait one day to print on this paper as Freestyle has it in stock...use a warmtone developer with and tone in selenium after...it's not cheap either!
it's not PW but neither is the paper they are going to come out with...it can't be the exact same paper...not now or ever
best, Peter

Vlad Soare · Jan 12, 2017

Fomatone has a yellowish base. That makes it a poor substitute for Polywarmtone.

Ian Grant · Jan 12, 2017

I looked at Fomatone 131 as a replacement for Polywarmtone and bought a box, it's lovely paper but I agree with Vlad the yellowish base is not what I'm really after. I moved to Polywarmtone when Agfa ceased production of film and paper at that point Ilford Warmtone FB was on a creamier base and I found Polywarmtone to be even better than I'd expected. I still have some left but have now switched to Ilford Warmtone which is now on a whiter base.

Ian

Peter Schrager · Jan 12, 2017

Ilford WT don't cut it for me...the surface looks like it's ferrotyped

Peter Schrager · Jan 12, 2017

Vlad Soare said:
Fomatone has a yellowish base. That makes it a poor substitute for Polywarmtone.

Foma may be a poor substitute for you but I can't wait another 8 years.. use available materials and keep foma alive in the meantime

AgX · Jan 12, 2017

bence8810 said:
I just went to the Polywarmtone project's site and there are no updates to the blog since 2014 year end...

????
The last statement on his Polywarmtone project is only 6 weeks old.

He stated that at the moment they were busy modifying their own production coater and finetuning its dryer for the coating of their CHS 100 II.
They aim at a production run within this quarter. Once that has been done their production line should stand clear for tuning for the production of the Polywarmtione paper. In the meanwhile they have twice worked on a substitute for one of its elements.

bence8810 · Jan 12, 2017

AgX said:
????
The last statement on his Polywarmtone project is only 6 weeks old.

Sorry - I meant their site. Maybe would be good to occasionally update that. Myself and many others have filled the form there committing to an initial order if and when the paper is out.

Ben

http://www.polywarmtone.com/Blog/English.html

AgX · Jan 12, 2017

Keep in mind that all this is run by Mirko and likely he has better things to do than to update all various sites. That statement he made on his german forum.

Ian Grant · Jan 12, 2017

Peter Schrager said:
Ilford WT don't cut it for me...the surface looks like it's ferrotyped

The Ilford Warntone FB prints I make don't look "Glazed" we use the term Ferrotype quite differently to mean "Tintype"

Maybe there;s a touch more gloss with an air dried print but it's not remotely close to a glazed FB print or the high gloss of Glossy RC paper.

Ian

Wayne · Jan 12, 2017

AgX said:
????
The last statement on his Polywarmtone project is only 6 weeks old.

He stated that at the moment they were busy modifying their own production coater and finetuning its dryer for the coating of their CHS 100 II.
They aim at a production run within this quarter. Once that has been done their production line should stand clear for tuning for the production of the Polywarmtione paper. In the meanwhile they have twice worked on a substitute for one of its elements.

The last statement on this thread was 12 weeks ago on October 13, the last statement on the blog and the facebook blog were in 2014. Where do you see a statement 6 weeks ago?

AgX · Jan 12, 2017

The term "ferrotyping" is most ambiguous and puzzled me too:

(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

Peter Schrager · Jan 12, 2017

Richard.L said:
+1 I also enjoy Adox paper (Lupex) and will try the PolyW upon its arrival...
in the meantime
Even though most of my prints are coldtone, I do some runs of warmtone imagery…
Developer:
Foma Fomatol PW (W24) Warm-Tone Powder Paper Developer

Paper:
-- FOMATONE MG Classic 532-II, 542-II // the 542 is my main choice. The very creamy base (what many don’t like) is my preference. I use about 300 sheets of the 532, apprx 500 sheets per year of the 542. Some of this quantity is ‘lith’
OR
--Oriental Seagull Select VC-FB Warm Tone Black & White Variable Contrast Double Weight Smooth Glossy
A few months ago, with much W24 mixed, I made a few test prints on Seagull WT… that first print made me buy 10 boxes of the Seagull… it is my replacement for Ilford WT.

I've made some nice prints on the 542. .overall I prefer the #131/132..haven't tried seagull yet but the coldtone is very nice almost a little warm
Sorry don't mean to hijack thread..just wanted to people know there are options available now

Roger Cole · Jan 13, 2017

Peter Schrager said:
Ilford WT don't cut it for me...the surface looks like it's ferrotyped

I like it myself but if it's too shiny for you have you tried the semi-matte version?

Hal Reiser · Sep 29, 2017

It’s been almost a year since Mirko’s last update on the Polywarmtone project and I was wondering if there was any progress to report.

Wayne · Sep 29, 2017

Hal Reiser said:
It’s been almost a year since Mirko’s last update on the Polywarmtone project and I was wondering if there was any progress to report.

Its been over 3 years since the blog was updated. I've stopped being anxious and have given it up for lost, at least for the foreseeable future.

Wayne · Jun 3, 2018

Ektachrome will be back before Polywarmtone. Heck maybe Kodachrome too. Hello Adox, is this still in the works or can we stop hoping?

AgX · Jun 4, 2018

Wayne said:
The last statement on this thread was 12 weeks ago on October 13, the last statement on the blog and the facebook blog were in 2014. Where do you see a statement 6 weeks ago?

The last statement by Mirko about Polywarmtone was on November 27th 2016. 6 weeks before I posted.
And 1 1/2 years ago by now...

Wayne · Jun 5, 2018

AgX said:
The last statement by Mirko about Polywarmtone was on November 27th 2016. 6 weeks before I posted.
And 1 1/2 years ago by now...

I still dont know where you see that. His last post on this thread was in October 2016 though, so close enough, https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/forte-polywarmtone.47483/page-10#post-1842460
I hope they get past whatever roadblock they've run into. Preferably in my lifetime.

AgX · Jun 5, 2018

His last statement was at his own forum, in German.

Lachlan Young · Jun 5, 2018

Given that they're currently building a coating plant in Bad Saarow & working on getting the Ciba/ Ilfochrome test plant in Marly brought up to production coating quality, I'd suggest that availability of PWT will depend on when those plants are ready & Mirko is happy to proceed.

AgX · Jun 5, 2018

Except for his building projects Mirko is following his projects to his own saying bit by bit and applying money and people wherever at that very moment it seems most benefitial for him.

RauschenOderKorn · Feb 4, 2019

Seems some news on this project passed unnoticed in this forum:

Test Coating with simulated emulsion:

http://www.adox.de/Photo/polywarmtone-layer-build-up/

First coating with real emulsion:

http://www.adox.de/Photo/first-testcoating-with-real-emulsions/

chris77 · Feb 4, 2019

great !

juan · Feb 4, 2019

Yes. I got an email as I had signed up years ago for notifications.

Wayne · Feb 5, 2019

Thats somewhat encouraging, after such a long silence. I just hope I can still feed and dress myself if and when it hits the market.

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