Film Ferrania p30

[schyter]

Ferrania P30 @ 80 iso (*)
Adox Adonal 1+50 - 16min - 18 °C
Kodak StopBath (30sec.) Adofix rapid fixer (3min 30sec)
wash (Ilford metod)
Adoflo wetting agent (1min)



Zenit 19 (* lightmeter on board camera!)
1) Helios 44M-4
2) Jupiter 37A
3) Helios 44M-4
4) Mir 20
5) Jupiter 37A

 

[Scott Micciche]

Ferrania P30 @ 80 iso (*)
Adox Adonal 1+50 - 16min - 18 °C
Kodak StopBath (30sec.) Adofix rapid fixer (3min 30sec)
wash (Ilford metod)
Adoflo wetting agent (1min)



Zenit 19 (* lightmeter on board camera!)
1) Helios 44M-4
2) Jupiter 37A
3) Helios 44M-4
4) Mir 20
5) Jupiter 37A

These are gorgeous! I have noticed that the rodinal developers, and similar (Paranol) are quite effective with the P30.

 

[schyter]

These are gorgeous! I have noticed that the rodinal developers, and similar (Paranol) are quite effective with the P30.

thanks a lot Scott Micciche (italian ancestors ??) ...
according to information I received during the presentation day in Milan, by Nicola Baldini (CEO Ferrania),
it is a film that has to be developed thoroughly with generous timing. Also according to Nicola the Rodinal is certainly among the major candidates for an excellent development.
To try to keep the contrast under control, I preferred to develop at 18 ° C with minimal and delicate overturns.

 

[Scott Micciche]

thanks a lot Scott Micciche (italian ancestors ??) ...
according to information I received during the presentation day in Milan, by Nicola Baldini (CEO Ferrania),
it is a film that has to be developed thoroughly with generous timing. Also according to Nicola the Rodinal is certainly among the major candidates for an excellent development.
To try to keep the contrast under control, I preferred to develop at 18 ° C with minimal and delicate overturns.

I agree. ~ 8 minutes for more or less stock solutions seems to work well. D76 1:1 around 13 minutes at 50 ISO is also very good.

Adox silvermax, by far, has been the best negatives I've seen.

Yes, Sicilian ancestry as well as Campagna and Alto Adige.

 

[martinjames]

Well, I'm really late to the P30 party but finally got around to shooting a couple of rolls recently. (I received my 5 rolls many months ago). One advantage of waiting, however, is being able to note the efforts and results of others!
My first roll was developed in Ilfosol S using the recommended times/dilution. Results were ok but very contrasty and unfortunately the one frame I really liked was compromised by some streaks, visible in the open sky area. For my second roll I went with the 60 minute, semi-stand Rodinal technique. What a difference! Still plagued by the streaking at times, but they were better hidden in these subjects. Really happy with the smooth tonal gradations this film provides. All of these are scanned with Silverfast 8, no curves, sharpening, etc, with an Epson V750.
More images in this Flickr album: https://www.flickr.com/photos/143969567@N04/albums/72157673572241698

 

[Scott Micciche]

Well, I'm really late to the P30 party but finally got around to shooting a couple of rolls recently. (I received my 5 rolls many months ago). One advantage of waiting, however, is being able to note the efforts and results of others!
My first roll was developed in Ilfosol S using the recommended times/dilution. Results were ok but very contrasty and unfortunately the one frame I really liked was compromised by some streaks, visible in the open sky area. For my second roll I went with the 60 minute, semi-stand Rodinal technique. What a difference! Still plagued by the streaking at times, but they were better hidden in these subjects. Really happy with the smooth tonal gradations this film provides. All of these are scanned with Silverfast 8, no curves, sharpening, etc, with an Epson V750.
More images in this Flickr album: https://www.flickr.com/photos/143969567@N04/albums/72157673572241698

Strange regarding the streaking, but these Rodinal images are very nice!

 

[martinjames]

Thanks, Scott. I recall that some users mentioned long ago, on the Ferrania P30 blog, they had seen some lines appearing. I assume these are emulsion coating issues in the early, small batch production. In any case, I hope Ferrania can get the supply started up again soon since my 5 rolls will soon be used up!
I shot this second roll at a less than ideal time (mid-afternoon with a blazing sun up above) and so I still had some frames where the highlights were over-cooked a bit.

 

[Scott Micciche]

Thanks, Scott. I recall that some users mentioned long ago, on the Ferrania P30 blog, they had seen some lines appearing. I assume these are emulsion coating issues in the early, small batch production. In any case, I hope Ferrania can get the supply started up again soon since my 5 rolls will soon be used up!
I shot this second roll at a less than ideal time (mid-afternoon with a blazing sun up above) and so I still had some frames where the highlights were over-cooked a bit.

I believe some early rolls had some marks or scratches. The semi-stand should help out with some of those highlights.

 

[martinjames]

Assuming P30 becomes readily available it may be a film that I load into two bodies, keeping shots requiring less highlight development (or, an entirely different developer) on one roll.
I think I might want to give the Silvermax developer a try with it also, as I see you have excellent results with it.

 

[martinjames]

Ferrania P30 @ 80 iso (*)
Adox Adonal 1+50 - 16min - 18 °C
Kodak StopBath (30sec.) Adofix rapid fixer (3min 30sec)
wash (Ilford metod)
Adoflo wetting agent (1min)



Zenit 19 (* lightmeter on board camera!)
1) Helios 44M-4
2) Jupiter 37A
3) Helios 44M-4
4) Mir 20
5) Jupiter 37A

These pictures are superb! May I ask the location?

 

[Scott Micciche]

Assuming P30 becomes readily available it may be a film that I load into two bodies, keeping shots requiring less highlight development (or, an entirely different developer) on one roll.
I think I might want to give the Silvermax developer a try with it also, as I see you have excellent results with it.

Silvermax produced the best negatives for me, with a runner-up being the Paranol S and then the FF No. 1 monobath. The silvermax carries no ORM-D tag, so I expect shipping to be easier to parts of the world where ORM-D isn't allowed. I have no experience with its shelf life once opened, however.

I have a roll of Silvermax 100 that will be developed in it this week; I had opened the silvermax 2 months prior and it is still clear.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

I'll try it when it comes out in sheet film. Looks quite nice.

 

[lantau]

Silvermax produced the best negatives for me, with a runner-up being the Paranol S and then the FF No. 1 monobath. The silvermax carries no ORM-D tag, so I expect shipping to be easier to parts of the world where ORM-D isn't allowed. I have no experience with its shelf life once opened, however.

I have a roll of Silvermax 100 that will be developed in it this week; I had opened the silvermax 2 months prior and it is still clear.

Last weekend I finally finished my first bottle of Silvermax developer. It must have been open for around to two years. I also use Spur HRX which has been first used in August 2016 and is quite coloured by now. I hardly used it, probably because I didn't want to 'waste' the expensive fine grain dev of ordinary jobs. But I'm currently doing all my HP5+ in it in order to use it up.

Foma developers get slightly coloured in the unopened bottle upon long storage and stronger in opened bottles. All my Fomadon LQN, opened and unopened, has been expired for a year now. I keep opened Fomafon in the fridge, actually. But they all work. What I do, however, is to use butane gas (Protectan) to cover all my developers.

I bought a fresh bottle of Silvermax developer just over a year ago. It's been sitting unopened waiting for the first bottle to be finished. I looks fine. If there is any colour change it is minimal. Being a chemist, originally, I'm not as worried about the shelf live of chemicals as much as many others here.

 

[Old-N-Feeble]

I'll try it when it comes out in sheet film. Looks quite nice.

+1

 

[Scott Micciche]

Last weekend I finally finished my first bottle of Silvermax developer. It must have been open for around to two years. I also use Spur HRX which has been first used in August 2016 and is quite coloured by now. I hardly used it, probably because I didn't want to 'waste' the expensive fine grain dev of ordinary jobs. But I'm currently doing all my HP5+ in it in order to use it up.

Foma developers get slightly coloured in the unopened bottle upon long storage and stronger in opened bottles. All my Fomadon LQN, opened and unopened, has been expired for a year now. I keep opened Fomafon in the fridge, actually. But they all work. What I do, however, is to use butane gas (Protectan) to cover all my developers.

I bought a fresh bottle of Silvermax developer just over a year ago. It's been sitting unopened waiting for the first bottle to be finished. I looks fine. If there is any colour change it is minimal. Being a chemist, originally, I'm not as worried about the shelf live of chemicals as much as many others here.

This is good news then! I try to squeeze out any air in the bottle until it spills out a bit, then cap it tight. I did this so many times with my bottle of HC-110, I cracked the plastic and had to then place it into individual 250ml bottles

 

[schyter]

[QUOTE = "martinjames, post: 2115403, membro: 21851"] Queste immagini sono eccezionali! Posso chiedere la posizione? [/ QUOTE]
geographic ??? Dolomiti Orientali, Cortina d'Ampezzo, Italy

 

[jonasfj]

Ferrania P30 @ 80 iso (*)
Adox Adonal 1+50 - 16min - 18 °C
Kodak StopBath (30sec.) Adofix rapid fixer (3min 30sec)
wash (Ilford metod)
Adoflo wetting agent (1min)



Zenit 19 (* lightmeter on board camera!)
1) Helios 44M-4
2) Jupiter 37A
3) Helios 44M-4
4) Mir 20
5) Jupiter 37A

Those are beautiful photographs. You are certainly a good photographer and I can tell that you know the craft of developing and printing/scanning. One thing your choice of developers helps with is to cause this "glow" in the highlights, which I believe has to do with the non-compensating character of Adonal (Rodinal).

 

[jtk]

Where online can P30 be bought?

 

[cmacd123]

Where online can P30 be bought?

besides E-bay? last word was they are not going to release any more product until they get the factory working without creating a lot of Waste.

at that time they said the site at https://www.filmferrania.com/ will reopen.

 

[faberryman]

Where online can P30 be bought?

There isn't any currently available. They sold all they had about a year ago, and they haven't been able to make any more for various reasons. No word about when more may be available.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

There's none on ebay that I could see...

 

[JPD]

I'm not interested in a film that you must expose at ISO 10 to get some shadow detail.

 

[cmacd123]

There's none on ebay that I could see...

some one listed 3 rolls for Fifty dollars US a couple of weeks ago.

 

[m00dawg]

I'm not interested in a film that you must expose at ISO 10 to get some shadow detail.

Ok! More for me then! I really enjoy slower speed films myself. I haven't tried doing paper negatives but that seems fun and you're at 3 or 6 ISO with those. Rollei IR with an R72 is 6 to 12. I've have some beautiful results with it. Honestly think you might be missing out but there's a treasure trove of BW films to choose from from slow to fast up to and including P3200 (which I love as well, albeit for totally different reasons).

Here's hoping Ferrania gets things going soon. I've just gotten used to being patient with Ferrania. It'll get here when it gets here :/ and I'll be happy when it does. In the meantime, just ordered from ADOX CHS II in 4x5 I'm excited to try. Also their HR50 seems interesting (though having to use special developers isn't usually my jam) and at some point maybe I'll brave their CMS 20. I've been reading up on Rollei 80s and it shows promise at slower ISOs.

 

[JPD]

Ok! More for me then! I really enjoy slower speed films myself.

I like slower films, but the P30 is marketed as an ISO 80 film and at that speed you'll get some mid and bright tones but everything darker than that will be pitch black.

In the meantime, just ordered from ADOX CHS II in 4x5 I'm excited to try.

That's a nice film. Very fine grain, more like the old Efke/Adox 50 than the 100. I have exposed it at ISO 100 and developed it in Agfa 44 1+1, but I still want more shadow detail so ISO 50 is better. Maybe even ISO 25 if developed in Rodinal.