Does your F2 make a loud "ping" when you fire it?

[Cholentpot]

It does, in the Fuji film factory. muhahahaha

Someone hack the new Instax digital printer camera to go Ka-CHING after every print

 

[mshchem]

I have plenty of Nikon cameras, A Nikon F2 is the logical follow up on the F. The FM was a counter to the Olympus OM series. The F2 was an attempt by Nikon to make good, the few things that the F didn't quite get right, which ain't much. You need to take care of any mechanical device, foam goes bad, duh, easy for a patient steady hand to fix. I have never had any of my F, F2, or F3 cameras fail to work. My F5 and F100 (s) have had hiccups, battery related. The F2 will go from 10 seconds up to an 80th in full stops and from an 80th to a 2000th, infinitely variable, without a battery. The F2 and F are the Leica M3, M4 of the 35mm SLR world. Built like a tank. In their day no real peers to the men and women that used them to make a living, especially Press photographers. Korea (Leica) and Vietnam (Nikon and Leica) proved this.

I'm a big guy so anything smaller or lighter doesn't feel right to me. Even though the F3 is a thing of beauty, I never really warmed up to it like my F2 stuff. I have one particular "Apollo" F with a plain prism in chrome, I don't think there is a prettier camera made, a pristine Leica (lots to choose from) would share the podium.

Think how much it would cost to make a totally mechanical SLR like the F or F2 today? New Leicas will give you an idea of a starting point, then add the mirror box, motor drive etc

The thing no SLR will ever have is the whisper of a Leica shutter. (At least without the mirror locked up)
Peace, Mike

 

[Michael Guzzi]

I have plenty of Nikon cameras, A Nikon F2 is the logical follow up on the F. The FM was a counter to the Olympus OM series. The F2 was an attempt by Nikon to make good, the few things that the F didn't quite get right, which ain't much. You need to take care of any mechanical device, foam goes bad, duh, easy for a patient steady hand to fix. I have never had any of my F, F2, or F3 cameras fail to work. My F5 and F100 (s) have had hiccups, battery related. The F2 will go from 10 seconds up to an 80th in full stops and from an 80th to a 2000th, infinitely variable, without a battery. The F2 and F are the Leica M3, M4 of the 35mm SLR world. Built like a tank. In their day no real peers to the men and women that used them to make a living, especially Press photographers. Korea (Leica) and Vietnam (Nikon and Leica) proved this.

I'm a big guy so anything smaller or lighter doesn't feel right to me. Even though the F3 is a thing of beauty, I never really warmed up to it like my F2 stuff. I have one particular "Apollo" F with a plain prism in chrome, I don't think there is a prettier camera made, a pristine Leica (lots to choose from) would share the podium.

Think how much it would cost to make a totally mechanical SLR like the F or F2 today? New Leicas will give you an idea of a starting point, then add the mirror box, motor drive etc

The thing no SLR will ever have is the whisper of a Leica shutter. (At least without the mirror locked up)
Peace, Mike

I've never managed to understand how that may work, as there are detents on the speed dial that make intermediate speeds hard to select. Am I missing something here?

Agree on the size thing (I am about 6' 4½" tall), even my FE-2 feels slightly too small for me, and waaay too light after using the F-2 for a while. The F-2 just feels quality in every possible way. A real joy to handle. If I want an autofocus F-2-like camera, I grab my F-5. Fits like a glove too.

 

[Fin]

My F2 makes a rather loud clack sound, the Fs a quieter clunk.

 

[mshchem]

I've never managed to understand how that may work, as there are detents on the speed dial that make intermediate speeds hard to select. Am I missing something here?

Agree on the size thing (I am about 6' 4½" tall), even my FE-2 feels slightly too small for me, and waaay too light after using the F-2 for a while. The F-2 just feels quality in every possible way. A real joy to handle. If I want an autofocus F-2-like camera, I grab my F-5. Fits like a glove too.

You dial the speed to match the meter. Especially with a F2S or SB where you have a LED metering, you could use intermediate speeds to dial in the correct exposure. No way to know exactly what the shutter speed is. But if you were doing critical work and wanted a specific aperture and metering was critical you could split a hair with the shutter. Same way you don't really know what intermediate aperture you are at when you are metering with a fixed shutter speed.
I never use any in camera meter except on my F5, so the in between speeds were just cool to a 17 year old kid in 1973. And yes my F-5 feels perfect to me especially with a 50mm lens.
Best Mike

 

[Michael Guzzi]

You dial the speed to match the meter. Especially with a F2S or SB where you have a LED metering, you could use intermediate speeds to dial in the correct exposure. No way to know exactly what the shutter speed is. But if you were doing critical work and wanted a specific aperture and metering was critical you could split a hair with the shutter. Same way you don't really know what intermediate aperture you are at when you are metering with a fixed shutter speed.
I never use any in camera meter except on my F5, so the in between speeds were just cool to a 17 year old kid in 1973. And yes my F-5 feels perfect to me especially with a 50mm lens.
Best Mike

I was asking from a mechanical standpoint, it seems hard to set it just so, so it sits between the speeds, not being "sucked" into the whole stop detents.

 

[Huss]

I've never managed to understand how that may work, as there are detents on the speed dial that make intermediate speeds hard to select. Am I missing something here?

Agree on the size thing (I am about 6' 4½" tall), even my FE-2 feels slightly too small for me, and waaay too light after using the F-2 for a while.

Use the MD-12 winder with the FE-2. Adds bulk and transforms the handling.

 

[saman13]

Perhaps i should start a post...see if we can create some kind of Trust/Foundation.
Probably a lot of us have nobody "good" to leave our cameras to. Absolutely no reason they should go to Kids/Family/Relative. We could start something to help preserve (not just our cameras) the traditional skills of photography.
We also have darkroom equipment and books.
I must have 40-50 books. I am not positive, but i think most of them are out of print...some of them for quite a long time now. Just like with a camera, once the books are gone.....they are gone for good.

This is why I am always looking for old cameras at estate sales...I like to think that whomever owned the cameras before me would be happy to know that they are still being used. I'm pretty young (early 20s) so I know that they will continue to be used for another 60 years or so. I recently found two heavily brassed (but perfectly functioning) F2s at an estate sale and I don't understand how the family would want to part with those... But they came home with me and now I know that they won't just sit in a box for the rest of their lives.

So don't worry! There are still younger people out here that care about cameras and their stories.

But to answer the original post that seems to have been lost in all of this... my F2 from 1974 pings and the one from 1972 does not (the '74 has more wear on it). Slightly annoying noise on such a beautiful camera.

 

[CMoore]

I am sure it has already been mentioned more than once, but......if the "ping" is that Loud/Annoying, the camera is in need of a tech. They did not sound that way, in the store, when they were new.

 

[E. von Hoegh]

Does your F2 make a loud "ping" when you fire it?


No, I've never fired a camera. My guns don't "ping" when I fire them, either. There is however no "ping" when I trip the shutter on my F2, but then it's been recently serviced and has a new mirror buffer. Perhaps you should have your cameras seen to, rather than complain about them? Just a thought.

 

[Cholentpot]

Does your F2 make a loud "ping" when you fire it?


No, I've never fired a camera. My guns don't "ping" when I fire them, either. There is however no "ping" when I trip the shutter on my F2, but then it's been recently serviced and has a new mirror buffer. Perhaps you should have your cameras seen to, rather than complain about them? Just a thought.

Have you ever taken a snapshot? How about shot a photo?

Firearms were around long before photography. Photography borrowed a lot of slag from firearms. So, I'm going to fire off a cartridge of shots while shooting long range hunting for headshots. A few might be snapshots but for the most part I'll aim on target. Bullseye.

 

[E. von Hoegh]

Have you ever taken a snapshot? How about shot a photo?

Firearms were around long before photography. Photography borrowed a lot of slag from firearms. So, I'm going to fire off a cartridge of shots while shooting long range hunting for headshots. A few might be snapshots but for the most part I'll aim on target. Bullseye.

There's enough idiocy out there anent firearms, I don't need to add to it. And the answers to your questions are "no" and "no".

 

[Cholentpot]

There's enough idiocy out there anent firearms, I don't need to add to it. And the answers to your questions are "no" and "no".

I love me guns. Wish Smith and Wesson made cameras too!

Rifle skills taught me how to use telephoto handheld to get awesome photos. Also to shoot at 1/10 and lower handheld.

 

[flavio81]

I have plenty of Nikon cameras, A Nikon F2 is the logical follow up on the F. The FM was a counter to the Olympus OM series. The F2 was an attempt by Nikon to make good, the few things that the F didn't quite get right, which ain't much. You need to take care of any mechanical device, foam goes bad, duh, easy for a patient steady hand to fix. I have never had any of my F, F2, or F3 cameras fail to work. (...) Even though the F3 is a thing of beauty, I never really warmed up to it like my F2 stuff.

Great post.

 

[Theo Sulphate]

With three F2's and two F2S's, none of them ping. I do notice a slightly different sound based on the lens that's mounted. I would say that a plain-prism Nikon F with an 85/1.8 pre-AI makes the best shutter sound in the world.

Perhaps i should start a post...see if we can create some kind of Trust/Foundation.
Probably a lot of us have nobody "good" to leave our cameras to...

I'm having a Pyramid built in my back garden where I and my possessions will travel to the Next World.

My SX-70 goes Click-pshhhzzzzz-chkchk. You can hardly hear it if you are in the next county.

Wait... shouldn't it be Click-thwapp-pshhhzzzzz-chkchk? I'm assuming that was just a typo, but if you're really not getting the thwapp, then your mirror (*) isn't coming up.

...
Rifle skills taught me how to use telephoto handheld to get awesome photos. Also to shoot at 1/10 and lower handheld.

The opposite for me, as photography was my first hobby and (long distance) target shooting was my fourth. Having made a roll of blurry photos with a 200mm lens on my AE-1P, I eventually learned the skills needed for sub-MOA groups with a Sako in .222 and with a Barrett .50BMG at 1000 yards / 1 mile.

(*) I believe there are four mirrors in the SX-70 light path, though three are usually mentioned. The raising of the bottom (2nd) mirror over the film pack covers the (1st) back mirror, but also brings up the final (4th) mirror to reflect down onto the film.

 

[CMoore]

I only have One, and have just started shooting it recently, but.....my Minolta XD-11 has a Very Quiet shutter. I used it after this thread started, and it struck me as being "more quiet" than my other 35mm SLR.
To really know for sure, i suppose a person Would have to line them all up and take some dB/SPL . While my other cameras all sound similar (i think) the XD-11 seemed noticeably more quiet.

Is there any Correlation between Sound/Noise and whether a shutter is Cloth vs Metal and Horizontal vs Vertical.?

 

[blockend]

I haven't read the thread so apologies for any repetition, but I've never heard a Nikon go ping, including my F2AS. I have heard other SLRs ping, but not a Nikon. My first guess would be a rotted or missing mirror damper, as there's nothing in the F2 shutter that promotes a pinging noise. Unless you're convinced it's a shutter sound, I'd look in the mirror box.

 

[Cholentpot]

With three F2's and two F2S's, none of them ping. I do notice a slightly different sound based on the lens that's mounted. I would say that a plain-prism Nikon F with an 85/1.8 pre-AI makes the best shutter sound in the world.

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I'm having a Pyramid built in my back garden where I and my possessions will travel to the Next World.



Wait... shouldn't it be Click-thwapp-pshhhzzzzz-chkchk? I'm assuming that was just a typo, but if you're really not getting the thwapp, then your mirror (*) isn't coming up.



The opposite for me, as photography was my first hobby and (long distance) target shooting was my fourth. Having made a roll of blurry photos with a 200mm lens on my AE-1P, I eventually learned the skills needed for sub-MOA groups with a Sako in .222 and with a Barrett .50BMG at 1000 yards / 1 mile.

(*) I believe there are four mirrors in the SX-70 light path, though three are usually mentioned. The raising of the bottom (2nd) mirror over the film pack covers the (1st) back mirror, but also brings up the final (4th) mirror to reflect down onto the film.

Is the .50BMG louder than a Bronica S2?

 

[Theo Sulphate]

Is the .50BMG louder than a Bronica S2?

Yes, but it doesn't ping.

 

[Cholentpot]

Yes, but it doesn't ping.

My M1 does but that post got deleted.

 

[Theo Sulphate]

In the 1960's, when Nikon was designing the F2 to replace the F, they knew it was largely going to be used by professionals, mostly the press corps, and they knew those cameras would get routine (scheduled) maintenance as a working tool and designed things accordingly. They likely never imagined the camera being used 45+ years later by hobbyists.

 

[mshchem]

With three F2's and two F2S's, none of them ping. I do notice a slightly different sound based on the lens that's mounted. I would say that a plain-prism Nikon F with an 85/1.8 pre-AI makes the best shutter sound in the world.

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I'm having a Pyramid built in my back garden where I and my possessions will travel to the Next World.



Wait... shouldn't it be Click-thwapp-pshhhzzzzz-chkchk? I'm assuming that was just a typo, but if you're really not getting the thwapp, then your mirror (*) isn't coming up.



The opposite for me, as photography was my first hobby and (long distance) target shooting was my fourth. Having made a roll of blurry photos with a 200mm lens on my AE-1P, I eventually learned the skills needed for sub-MOA groups with a Sako in .222 and with a Barrett .50BMG at 1000 yards / 1 mile.

(*) I believe there are four mirrors in the SX-70 light path, though three are usually mentioned. The raising of the bottom (2nd) mirror over the film pack covers the (1st) back mirror, but also brings up the final (4th) mirror to reflect down onto the film.

YOU KNOW WHAT ALSO LOOKS COOL ON MY PLAIN PRISM F's, my 85mm f1.4 AF-D that's happy as can be on those old F's. I'm done buying modern Nikon glass. All the miracle VR, electronic aperture, phooey! MY 180 2.8, AF-D, WITH IT'S HANDY BUILT IN LENS HOOD LOOKS PRETTY SWEET TOO,!

No comment on some nitwit who shoots 50 Cal BMG, my rule of thumb is any cartridge that was used on fighter aircraft machine guns, is likely to bruise my delicate physique.

 

[Theo Sulphate]

... my 85mm f1.4 AF-D that's happy as can be on those old F's. I'm done buying modern Nikon glass. All the miracle VR, electronic aperture, phooey! MY 180 2.8, AF-D, WITH IT'S HANDY BUILT IN LENS HOOD LOOKS PRETTY SWEET TOO,!

The 85/1.4 AF-D is a beautiful lens. In appearance, it may be the nicest lens Nikon has ever made and I'm sure it performs very well. Even though I've stopped buying AF lenses, I've wanted one ever since I saw it on Rockwell's site, but I've never found one for sale.

As for the 180/2.8, mine's manual focus:



The fewer motors, sensors, and custom chips in my cameras and lenses, the better.

No comment on some nitwit ...

Yeah, whatever. Seals, Rangers, and the Special Forces of the world's militaries don't care.

 

[fstop]

I love me guns. Wish Smith and Wesson made cameras too!

Rifle skills taught me how to use telephoto handheld to get awesome photos. Also to shoot at 1/10 and lower handheld.

I use shooting techniques to improve my hand held photography, people are amazed at the sharpness on my hand held low speed shots.

If you shoot steel plates like hickok45 targets will ping...

 

[chip j]

Nikon lost a good deal of my respect w/the F100, and now a little more w/the F2.