I for one see a huge hole in the reversal film market. The question is, who will step up and fill it?
"What is that huge hole?" you ask. That huge hole is high speed color reversal film. I for one would like to see at least an ISO 400 reversal film. Fuji no longer makes it, and neither does Kodak. If I want slides, and I want to shoot handheld indoors, I have three options:
B&W reversal can be done at home if you're set up for that sort of thing, or use DR5's process. I can, and do, shoot HP5+ (an ISO 400 film) at EI 1600 and send it through DR5 Film Lab's process, and the resulting B&W slides are absolutely gorgeous. I think HP5+ pushes so well in this process because it's a low-contrast film to begin with, and we all know that pushing film boosts the contrast.
- Use electronic flash, but this negates natural lighting
- Underexpose and push, but not exactly practical if you want to shoot at EI 1600 or higher, and maybe not even practical at EI 800
- Shoot color negative, then have slides made from that (but this is a hybrid process which many will not want to do), and this gets expensive at $2/pop, plus the cost of shooting the color negative film in the first place.
The question is, will Ferrania be able and willing to introduce an ISO 400 reversal film? There's already a plethora of B&W films out there to choose from, some of which reverse quite nicely, but what we really need is an ISO 400 color reversal film, and right now there are none!
The question is, will Ferrania be able and willing to introduce an ISO 400 reversal film? There's already a plethora of B&W films out there to choose from, some of which reverse quite nicely, but what we really need is an ISO 400 color reversal film, and right now there are none!
Disappearing the original thread is a huge loss. It spoke to the re-establishment of a film market and its participants in a seminal way; warts and all. A real shame; I don't care about the reasons.
We have just published a short end-of-year update:
http://www.filmferrania.it/news-articles/2018/slow-and-steady-wins-the-race
Not sure how that is an update. It sounds very ominous. Don't expect anything anytime soon was how it struck me.
I would curb my enthusiasm. I wonder why they promised monthly updates in the first place.As such, you will not hear much from us until we have products ready to ship.
Disagree, it doesn't sound ominous to me at all, sounds very realistic and shows there contentedness on their task before them. In fact, for me, it shows a very strong clarity, after overcoming all the countless pitfalls and spin around that they have gone through. Now they now have the focus point clear before them. Remarkable what they have accomplished!Not sure how that is an update. It sounds very ominous. Don't expect anything anytime soon was how it struck me.
Not sure how that is an update. It sounds very ominous. Don't expect anything anytime soon was how it struck me.
I think this update also is a result of all the previous bashing. To me it says: "We´re still on it but we wont tell anything which isn´t a 101% certain to avoid further disappointment and all what goes along with that."Not sure how that is an update. It sounds very ominous. Don't expect anything anytime soon was how it struck me.
Well said. No group of people have ever tried to do something like this. The equipment was a treasure, however once you start changing things, you end up spending a lot of money and time meeting modern codes and standards.I see nothing negative in the news. Actually I find extraordinary that Ferrania chose to "reimburse" those who want their Kickstarter money in the future. Ferrania doesn't have any legal, nor any moral obligation to do so. The fact that they chose to do so seems quite remarkable to me, and it also seems to me a sign of an improving financial health.
As far as the lack of speculations about future milestones, I think this is the right thing to do. There are too many uncertainties and too much energy is devoted to trying to explain why things did not turn out as expected. Just don't create expectations, and it will work better.
Some people critical of Ferrania in the other thread actually praised Kodak for the comparative lack of speculation about productive goals and milestones. They should be now happier
The general lines of development of the firm seem to be sensible: first things first, and the rest later. It seems to me they are laying a robust basement for the future "building". "And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock." (Matthew 7,25)
Yes all very good points.Thanks for the kind words posted here since the last update. Here are a couple of very short reactions:
To Charles MacDonald - when something is newsworthy, we will share it of course.
To Peter K. - you pretty much nailed it. Our short-term goal is more specific and clear than it has ever been, even if the path to that goal remains extremely complex and hard to report to the general public.
To Agulliver - I really like the phrase "beavering away"! That is exactly what is happening.
To Harry Callahan - correct on both points.
To Paul Barden - it is quite fascinating. As a past student of social psychology, I find it endlessly entertaining, if occasionally frustrating.
To mshchem - modern codes and standards have been a real pain in our ass, for sure. The "powers that be" have been inconsistent in their policing of those codes and standards - and they have often ignored the reality on the ground in their bureaucratic processes, even when the facts are well-known to them. Over the years, this has meant a variety of unwanted and/or ill-timed and/or completely unreasonable surprises, many many weeks of waiting for the bureaucracy to make a move of some sort, many more weeks of replying to such moves in the appropriate way, and on and on. At times, it has been thoroughly exhausting and incredibly discouraging. But as someone else has pointed out, our new investor has allowed us some space to deal with these things directly without the pressure of needing to sell.
To Berri - I don't know what "reasnoreas" means, but I would love some Ektachrome 120 as well!
Ferrania had priced one S8-cartridge of "Ferraniachrome" at 50$ at their Kickstartercampaign..."
One of those situations where it doesn't pass the common sense test if you ask me! I loved S8 but wouldn't pay £50+ for a cartridge.
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