Harry Callahan
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I see, still i think its interesting. It *might* work with the actual P30 as it is said to be made according to the original receipe.
the old thread is still on View atDisappearing the original thread is a huge loss. .
Disappearing the original thread is a huge loss. It spoke to the re-establishment of a film market and its participants in a seminal way; warts and all. A real shame; I don't care about the reasons.
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But the thread is now closed to comments. We can still have thoughts about the film industry on this thread...
Do we know that the new P30 emulsion is exactly the same as the old P30 emulsion?
With ektachrome on the market, do you think there is still need for another reversal film.
Mind you that old ferrania reversal film was quite poor quality.
At this point they should just focus on their P30 and try to produce it consistently. Forget about reversal film.
I think it would be best for ferrania to stick with BW film for a few years.
With ektachrome on the market, do you think there is still need for another reversal film.
Mind you that old ferrania reversal film was quite poor quality.
At this point they should just focus on their P30 and try to produce it consistently. Forget about reversal film.
Maybe I got it wrong, but I am sure reversal lab in the Netherlands sells it for 65€ including processingHi Berry.
As i said in another thread:
"As i assumed Ektachrome is quite expensive in europe.
If we take the S8-cartridge for example the cheapest price in europe is 60€ (without shipping; and there are some asking 65€ per cartridge) for one S8-cartridge. With one Euro being about 1.15$ at the moment, this is 69$ for one cartridge without developement.
Ferrania had priced one S8-cartridge of "Ferraniachrome" at 50$ at their Kickstartercampaign, indicating that price even might drop a little once the coater is expanded and everything fully running. But if we assume that they will offer one S8-cartridge for 50$ this would be cheaper by about 30% than Kodak - and during the Kickstarter they teamed up with a lab which was meant to provide free processing for the films of the campaign.
This now probably is obsolete, but being 30% cheaper than Kodak in europe is competitive, taken into account that their film will be grainier. Ferrania then will be the "good`n cheap" alternative to Kodak and such producers always have been around, no matter what product you look at."
I don't think so. All the Ektachrome formats in production or announced have one thing in common. they are all "cine" formats: Super 8, 16mm, 35mm, even 70mm all use the same base thickness and can be cut from the same master rolls. 4x5 (exception Technical Pan) is cut from stock with a thicker base and 120 rolls (exception early Tmax and Tech Pan) are cut from a thinner base master roll.EKTACHROME will be 16mm (there was a post about it today on Kodak's FB page), and I am sure we will get 120 and 5x4 in a year or so.
I think it would be best for ferrania to stick with BW film for a few years.
Of the film sells, I don't think Kodak will find it too difficult to coat the emulsion onto a different base.I don't think so. All the Ektachrome formats in production or announced have one thing in common. they are all "cine" formats: Super 8, 16mm, 35mm, even 70mm all use the same base thickness and can be cut from the same master rolls. 4x5 (exception Technical Pan) is cut from stock with a thicker base and 120 rolls (exception early Tmax and Tech Pan) are cut from a thinner base master roll.
When Kodak undertook the process of bringing back Ektachrome, there were a significant number of changes made necessary by the changes that had occurred in the interim in the industry. The work they did re-engineering (essentially a complete rebuild) to take into account changes in what suppliers could supply as well as taking the opportunity to make small but meaningful improvements to the new film - slightly better acutance, adjustment of the film’s sensitometric position so that the whites were whiter, and the colors more accurate, more stability in keeping and improved cold store keeping of the emulsions - will have to be at least partially redone when the format changes and new substrate is used. The different water absorption characteristics alone of the different bases mandates extensive work.Of the film sells, I don't think Kodak will find it too difficult to coat the emulsion onto a different base.
Maybe I got it wrong, but I am sure reversal lab in the Netherlands sells it for 65€ including processing
Seems like a lot for 3.5 minutes. Cost has to be a damper on an Ektachrome revival.I just looked, they have 1 S8 cartridge including processing for 63.90€, but without shipment and VAT which is 21%. Including VAT its 77.32€ which is about 88.91$ at the moment. Seems like they only do sell with development at the moment, so you´ll have to add shipping costs.
EKTACHROME will be 16mm (there was a post about it today on Kodak's FB page), and I am sure we will get 120 and 5x4 in a year or so.
I think it would be best for ferrania to stick with BW film for a few years.
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