........... but color has never been a huge amateur home processing market.
I assume Kodak are struggling to find a company capable of making this 'soup'
Simple question:
Will XTOL ever be manufactured again ?
I assume Kodak are struggling to find a company capable of making this 'soup', and I'd hate to see it disappear forever ( ... as it's been my standard developer since it was introduced back in the early 1990's ).
John S
New guy here,
I saw it was discontinued on B&H and ordered some off Amazon for a bit more than what it used to sell for. As someone just starting out it is worrisome to see the loss of so many products in the past years. Hopefully at least some other company can make a similar formula if it's gone for good.
New guy here,
I saw it was discontinued on B&H and ordered some off Amazon for a bit more than what it used to sell for. As someone just starting out it is worrisome to see the loss of so many products in the past years. Hopefully at least some other company can make a similar formula if it's gone for good.
Hopefully at least some other company can make a similar formula if it's gone for good.
Hm, I am not a lawyer, but if one of the parties don't fulfil the contract anymore - in this case Sino Promise Holdings, they stopped supplying the products - than the other contract partner is not obliged to the contract anymore.
New guy here,
I saw it was discontinued on B&H and ordered some off Amazon for a bit more than what it used to sell for. As someone just starting out it is worrisome to see the loss of so many products in the past years. Hopefully at least some other company can make a similar formula if it's gone for good.
Be careful when buying from Amazon or (gawd forbid) eBay: some of these sellers are unloading packages of Xtol from the bad batches, to get rid of it.
New guy here,
I saw it was discontinued on B&H and ordered some off Amazon for a bit more than what it used to sell for. As someone just starting out it is worrisome to see the loss of so many products in the past years. Hopefully at least some other company can make a similar formula if it's gone for good.
I don't know how much you know about Kodak Xtol's "long reputation" but it is worth mentioning, that reputation is not all good. There are many references to sudden Xtol failures. I believe one of the two authors of the Film Developing Cookbook refused to use Xtol ever again after ruining some important negatives in Xtol-gone-bad. More recently there were several batches of Xtol recalled by Kodak Alaris. In spite of that, I continue to use and recommend Xtol (and Eco-Pro), but I do take the extra step of checking my stock solution for activity before each processing run.The two current sellers trace back to brick and mortar stores but I’m still wary. I just want to be able to use the product with such a long reputation before it’s gone forever. Even if there are very similar products I don’t think it will be exactly the same.
I don't know how much you know about Kodak Xtol's "long reputation" but it is worth mentioning, that reputation is not all good. There are many references to sudden Xtol failures. I believe one of the two authors of the Film Developing Cookbook refused to use Xtol ever again after ruining some important negatives in Xtol-gone-bad. More recently there were several batches of Xtol recalled by Kodak Alaris. In spite of that, I continue to use and recommend Xtol (and Eco-Pro), but I do take the extra step of checking my stock solution for activity before each processing run.
I have done a fair bit of reading about Kodak Xtol and the other ascorbic acid + phenidone developers like LegacyPro Eco-Pro, Adox XT-3, Fomadon Excel, etc. While they may not be "exactly the same," I have never heard anyone say they could see any differences in the resulting negatives. Unless someone can offer evidence suggesting otherwise, I believe it is fair to say Xtol and the Xtol-clones are functionally equivalent.
Personally, it makes no difference to me whether I use Kodak Xtol or LegacyPro Eco-Pro. I might be able to say the same about Adox XT-3 and/or Fomadon Excel, but those products are more difficult to obtain here in the US, and I have not yet tried them.
I don't know how much you know about Kodak Xtol's "long reputation" but it is worth mentioning, that reputation is not all good. There are many references to sudden Xtol failures. I believe one of the two authors of the Film Developing Cookbook refused to use Xtol ever again after ruining some important negatives in Xtol-gone-bad. More recently there were several batches of Xtol recalled by Kodak Alaris. In spite of that, I continue to use and recommend Xtol (and Eco-Pro), but I do take the extra step of checking my stock solution for activity before each processing run.
I have done a fair bit of reading about Kodak Xtol and the other ascorbic acid + phenidone developers like LegacyPro Eco-Pro, Adox XT-3, Fomadon Excel, etc. While they may not be "exactly the same," I have never heard anyone say they could see any differences in the resulting negatives. Unless someone can offer evidence suggesting otherwise, I believe it is fair to say Xtol and the Xtol-clones are functionally equivalent.
Personally, it makes no difference to me whether I use Kodak Xtol or LegacyPro Eco-Pro. I might be able to say the same about Adox XT-3 and/or Fomadon Excel, but those products are more difficult to obtain here in the US, and I have not yet tried them.
I'm now using Adox XT-3 instead of Xtol. I use XT-3 replenished the same as I did Xtol and so far I'm more than happy with the switch.I don't know how much you know about Kodak Xtol's "long reputation" but it is worth mentioning, that reputation is not all good. There are many references to sudden Xtol failures. I believe one of the two authors of the Film Developing Cookbook refused to use Xtol ever again after ruining some important negatives in Xtol-gone-bad. More recently there were several batches of Xtol recalled by Kodak Alaris. In spite of that, I continue to use and recommend Xtol (and Eco-Pro), but I do take the extra step of checking my stock solution for activity before each processing run.
I have done a fair bit of reading about Kodak Xtol and the other ascorbic acid + phenidone developers like LegacyPro Eco-Pro, Adox XT-3, Fomadon Excel, etc. While they may not be "exactly the same," I have never heard anyone say they could see any differences in the resulting negatives. Unless someone can offer evidence suggesting otherwise, I believe it is fair to say Xtol and the Xtol-clones are functionally equivalent.
Personally, it makes no difference to me whether I use Kodak Xtol or LegacyPro Eco-Pro. I might be able to say the same about Adox XT-3 and/or Fomadon Excel, but those products are more difficult to obtain here in the US, and I have not yet tried them.
I spoke to LTI Lightside a pro dip and dunk lab in NYC that I've used. They had been using XTOL standardly. They will be switching over to Ilford and will be testing it over the next few weeks when their stock of XTOL runs out.
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