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Perforations for 110, 126, 828 are completely different from the APS format. You are talking apples and oranges. APS re-loading cannot be done. {redacted}
 
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Perforations for 110, 126, 828 are completely different from the APS format. You are talking apples and oranges. APS re-loading cannot be done. {redacted}

Have you tried and failed? Have you done it?

Otherwise take a seat and let others fail.

Oh and on account of 110. I figured out how to reload for 110 without the need of perforations even on cameras that need them. Some of us are out there taking photos and doing things rather than just telling people how stupid they are online.
 
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All that has been claimed is that it's possible but only with a lot of effort and only with the least sophisticated cameras that don't make use of the magnetic strip.

There's no point addressing anything else that guy is saying.
 

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All that has been claimed is that it's possible but only with a lot of effort and only with the least sophisticated cameras that don't make use of the magnetic strip.

There's no point addressing anything else that guy is saying.

Back in the day here there were a few users who had the 'Cannot be done!' attitude. A few were qualified to say it but it never stopped me from trying. And when it inevitably worked the response was 'Yes but it's not perfect' or 'It's not the way it's supposed to happen'

Worst that can happen is failure.
 

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If I were to try, I’d cut out the strip of film in the middle, leaving the top and bottom still attached to the spool in the cassette. Also leaving a tab of film outside the cassette on which a strip of film could be affixed.

Maybe try with some 16mm film.
 

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I spent the better part of my photo budget last month rebuilding an old Windows Vista PC so I could support SCSI scanners, and I have an APS module.

I’ll let you know if anything turns out from a couple rolls I got processed.
 

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Still, absolutely no evidence that an APS cassette can be reloaded. ONE would think that if it were possible, they could provide the evidence.

Yet, they can't. ZIP, ZILCH, NADA...........JUST TALK. Meaningless gibberish.

'NUF said.

{redacted}
 
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Still, absolutely no evidence that an APS cassette can be reloaded. ONE would think that if it were possible, they could provide the evidence.

Yet, they can't. ZIP, ZILCH, NADA...........JUST TALK. Meaningless gibberish.

'NUF said.

{redacted}

This guy, here, beg to differ.
 
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I am amazed at how vicious parts of this thread became. 😲

This guy, here, beg to differ.

Thank you for posting the link to this video.
I watched it and can see how precise each part of the process is and I am delighted that it works.
The film re-attacher unit brought back APS C41 processing memories.
 

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Right-o.

The only thing it looks like an average person would need is that hole puncher. Slitting can be done with any number of devices, you don't need a specialized lead or tail cutter. Use a scissors for the lead and tape the tail onto a leftover tongue.

I'd assume the hole puncher is custom made. Is there anything out there that comes close to it off the shelf?
 

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Use a scissors for the lead and tape the tail onto a leftover tongue.

To do that, the previous film in the cassette would need to be cut.
The APS film and cassette were designed that the film (tongue included) was extracted from the cassette center spool and then re-attached so I'm not sure if cutting the tongue would work. BUT definitely worth a try.
 

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I'd assume the hole puncher is custom made. Is there anything out there that comes close to it off the shelf?

Doubtful. I don't know how important the size and shape of the holes are. This hole punch also has an indexing pin (possibly 2).
 

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I use an excellent system Minolta Vectis.
The last films I bought was Fuji Nexia 200 expired 2008. But it was good. Kodak films lost the speed from 200 to 50-25 & misbalanced colours :sad: I did not saw good APS films on Ebay for last 2-3 years, so I think I'll shot my last dozens films from my fridge & move to Sony-E + Monster Adaper (Vectis-SonyE)







 

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Buy yourself one of those machines used by copyshops for bookbinding. There are two types, one using plastic spirals and the other metal ones. I think the shape of the hole punched for the plastic spirals are more like how the holes in original 126 film were.
I mean a machine like these ones: https://www.rega24.de/plastikringbindung.html
You need one that can disable single punches. The ones where you always punch with all punchers will punch holes that are too near one to the other.

Huh. New to me these machines. I don't think I can hop down to walmart and pick one up though. Time to troll the used business equipment depos.
 

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I spent the better part of my photo budget last month rebuilding an old Windows Vista PC so I could support SCSI scanners, and I have an APS module.

I’ll let you know if anything turns out from a couple rolls I got processed.

Was there anything else other than the Nikon 5000 (and some predecessors) that could scan APS film?
 

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I think I'll shot my last dozens films from my fridge & move to Sony-E + Monster Adaper (Vectis-SonyE)

Do you mean these guys haven't convinced you to simply reload your APS film cassettes?

I'm shocked.

Anyway, if you are thinking of an APS Sony e-mount camera for your Vectis lenses, you have a good selection to choose from -- and some are relatively small, and very inexpensive (ex. Sony a-3000). Or are you thinking of a Sony FULL-FRAME e-mount camera? There are a lot of them too, but your Vectis lenses won't cover the sensor -- but you know that.
 
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Do you mean these guys haven't convinced you to simply reload your APS film cassettes?

I'm shocked.

Anyway, if you are thinking of an APS Sony e-mount camera for your Vectis lenses, you have a good selection to choose from -- and some are relatively small, and very inexpensive (ex. Sony a-3000). Or are you thinking of a Sony FULL-FRAME e-mount camera? There are a lot of them too, but your Vectis lenses won't cover the sensor -- but you know that.

I'm sure you could convince him. Just turn on some of that famous charm 🙂

If it doesn't work when I get the chance I'll admit defeat and post photos of the botched attempt.

On the other hand if I manage to get it to work I'm not gonna let the doubters forget about it.
 

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Was there anything else other than the Nikon 5000 (and some predecessors) that could scan APS film?

Of the ones I have or had: Noritsu lab scanners, Canon FS4000US, Microtek/Polaroid 4000t/4000tf, Minolta Scan Dual. I'd be surprised if that is all.

And every flatbed and MF scanner with glass holder. If you cut the film, of course.
 

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On the other hand if I manage to get it to work I'm not gonna let the doubters forget about it.

I certainly hope you succeed. There are lots of people over at the SUBCLUB that reload 110 cassettes, 17.5mm (HIT) cameras, etc. (and let's not forget about the 126 and 828 fans). We all think the effort is worth it, and share our new approaches and successes. We'd love to add APS to the list -- but I don't buy lottery tickets.
 

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Of the ones I have or had: Noritsu lab scanners, Canon FS4000US, Microtek/Polaroid 4000t/4000tf, Minolta Scan Dual. I'd be surprised if that is all.

And every flatbed and MF scanner with glass holder. If you cut the film, of course.
If I look at your list: The Minolta had a good reputation but may be hard to service. Noritsu scanner HS-1800 has specs that give a max resolution of 4492x6774 (3/2 ratio), so probably not the same resolution for APS (16/9 ratio), may be expensive though for digitizing the tens (not hundreds) of APS rolls I did shoot. Is that your experience?

What about the others you listed? Were you happy with the quality?
 
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