Announcement from Kodak coming on February 23rd 2018

[wyofilm]

Tripods dont stop moving objects.

I agree. I've found tripods to be really lousy at stopping moving objects, especially when a camera is on top.

 

[fdonadio]

Kodak will start selling film which if one chooses to use will make the user fifty years younger and fifty points lighter. I will start buying cases of the film.

Wow... I’ll be -10 (minus ten) years old when using this film. The 50 pounds (I believe that’s what you meant) lighter part Is very appealing to me, but I will get rather thin.

 

[fdonadio]

Even if it's Kodachrome?

Well, if Kodak can process it, I will be buying cases of it too.

 

[PhxMedFormatPhotog]

Tripods dont stop moving objects.

Then you're not swinging it hard enough.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Kodak will start selling film which if one chooses to use will make the user fifty years younger and fifty points lighter. I will start buying cases of the film.

Even if it's Kodachrome?

I am talking about Real Film not one that specialized in muddy skies.

 

[WilmarcoImaging]

Portra 400 with improved performance at a 2 stop push, combined with the retirement of Portra 800. I would try such a product. Today's Portra 400 with a one stop push (EI800, 30 seconds more development time) is nice. Today's Portra 800 is not my cup of tea.

 

[Renato Tonelli]

HIE is coming back!

...why not? especially since I want it!

 

[Theo Sulphate]

Follow the money. Kodak will introduce something they think they can make money with. Or, at least they should.

 

[Poisson Du Jour]

Don't need TMax P3200. That segment of high speed film is very well serviced by Ilford's Delta P3200

Is it just that photographers have become used to shooting at high ISO with digital and think they need something comparable for film?

Comparable for film? Well, film is the big loser for high ISO colour work. Digital has swiftly and very happily overtaken ISO400+ film in huge leaps and bounds in that regard.

 

[Poisson Du Jour]

I am talking about Real Film not one that specialized in muddy skies.

+1

 

[Nodda Duma]

Follow the money. Kodak will introduce something they think they can make money with. Or, at least they should.

Their track record lately in that regard leaves one speechless.

 

[Theo Sulphate]

... not one that specialized in muddy skies.

Not that I doubt what you've seen, but my experience with about 1200 feet of Kodachrome II (8mm) is different. From 1964 onwards I made movies in the entire L.A. area and in Orange county and the skies were always a nice light powder blue.

 

[Craig]

I'm wondering if it's a RA4 colour paper? I think that is something that KA makes, as opposed to EK?

 

[George Mann]

I am talking about Real Film not one that specialized in muddy skies.

Which is something you endlessly rant about. But what if the new Kodachrome rendered skies to your liking?

 

[Craig]

Which is something you endlessly rant about.

That's because poor workmen always blame their tools.

 

[Patrick Robert James]

It will probably be a consolidation of a couple films with a new film along with the requisite smoke up our collective skirts on how much better it is to have less choice.

I could just be Kodak jaded though since I am not sure Kodak has made a good decision in my lifetime and I ain't young.

 

[wyofilm]

Question: Will this new product or service be immediately (or nearly so) available? Or will it be like Ektachrome, never closer than 6 mo away?

 

[Europan]

You had the old EKC where one would announce something and then bring it within half a year or three months.
You have the new Kodak where one makes noise and then nothing for years. Rochester has forgotten what Rochester
once did. Only one example, the EKC introduced the 16mm film format in the summer of 1923, film perforated along
both edges for decades. This is missing since long. It is my hope that Rochester will announce that Rochester will
offer all 16mm films with two hole rows again immediately. That takes the littlest effort and strengthens confidence back.

 

[Harry Callahan]

Ok, what do we have now?

"Film is back in the fast lane" this definetely is an allusion to the song "Life in the fast lane" by the Egales. This only can mean that they bring back a recording machine which does record sound on film, like some tried during the shellac era.
"Get ready to push (your photography) to the next level" only can mean that they are reffering to the song "Livin´it up" by Limp Bizkit, which does sample "Life in the fast lane" by the Eagels. "Livin´it up" is the push to the next level (and Limp Bizkit does push a lot!).
"Do you even push?" does mean that the recording machine is capable of running (way) above 30ips.
The picture of Usain Bolt does mean that Usain Bolt will sing the song while running.

So its a portable recording machine, because Bolt will sing while running, recording sound on b&w-film, because the picture of Bolt is b&w.

Puzzle solved.

 

[Ste_S]

I don't see the demand for a high speed color product. Fuji has been discontinuing its high speed products, undoubtedly due to lack of demand. ISO 400 is more than adequate for everything I do. Is it just that photographers have become used to shooting at high ISO with digital and think they need something comparable for film? Or has Kodak decided it will fill the niche vacuum left by Fuji?

I'd very much like a native 1600ISO colour film so I can hand hold at f11/f16 in the winter thanks.

Fuji's not just been discontinuing high speed stuff, it's doing it across the board.

 

[Theo Sulphate]

... It is my hope that Rochester will announce that Rochester will
offer all 16mm films with two hole rows again immediately. That takes the littlest effort and strengthens confidence back.

If Kodak introduced double-perf 16mm (that is, perforations on each side), most of the "newer" ciné cameras are designed for single-perf film and so would not use those extra perforations because the sprockets on the film guides are only on one side and, more importantly, there is only one claw in the gate to advance the film. Am I wrong? What about, for example, the Bolex Rex 5?

Even so, I think double-perf is inherently smoother in operation.

 

[trendland]

If Kodak introduced double-perf 16mm (that is, perforations on each side), most of the "newer" ciné cameras are designed for single-perf film and so would not use those extra perforations because the sprockets on the film guides are only on one side and, more importantly, there is only one claw in the gate to advance the film. Am I wrong? What about, for example, the Bolex Rex 5?

Even so, I think double-perf is inherently smoother in operation.

From my experience there is NO problem with double perforation.
I bought some different 16mm film in the midt 90th from Kodak.
Someday I noticed the difference I obviously not care before.
But you clearly have a NO GO when your camera has the need of double perforation.
Therefore the "end" of double perforated 16mm film stock is the same time end to ALL of this cameras.
But the opposite isn't "THAT" problem as far as I know.

with regards

 

[trendland]

To me double perforation came from double 8 ?? Wasn't these films on a normal 16mm roll?
When the roll is finised you can insert it to the other side and expose it again.
The labs had the task to develope the roll after this they split the film in the middle.
So double 8 has to have real big perforation.
with regards

PS : I can't remember if ARRI ST has the need of double perforation.
To this time I did not care about - or this is forgotten? So it is working on basis of single perforation -and double perforated films are working also.

 

[AgX]

To me double perforation came from double 8 ?? Wasn't these films on a normal 16mm roll?

Not quite...
Double-8 stock is the same as 16mm double-.perf., BUT with twice the numbers of perforations.

 

[Europan]

Here’s a camera that takes double-perf film:

Other older models need double-perf stock, Zeiss-Ikon Movikon 16, Bell & Howell Filmo 70s before August 1930, older Paillard-Bolex H cameras, Vitascope Movie Maker, Irwin, Ciné-Kodak, Ciné-Kodak Special, and more. Film perforated two rows allows a number of tricks on the shoot, on editing, and for duplication.