Will there ever be another photographic movement?

[Alan Edward Klein]

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[Alan Edward Klein]

On the other hand, try negotiating with Adobe.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

Lets keep this on topic, please... otherwise Matt might make you write on the board "I will not talk about unrelated matters" 20 times... with chalk.

 

[Arthurwg]

What is (are) the current recognized movement(s) in photography, if any. When did it (they) start and who are its (their) practitioners? If there is (are) no current recognized movement(s) in photography, what was the most recent recognized movement in photography? When did it start and who were (are) its practitioners?

You might find a "movement" among Yale MFA students and graduates, but I don't think it's been named yet.

 

[Sirius Glass]

I have satellite radio on my car and my wife's. I pay $7 a month for each car. It was $6 last year. Their nominal charge is more than double that. You have to negotiate with them. Tell the salesgirl her prices are exorbitant. That she's ripping you off. Offer $5 a month. She'll tell that's impossible but say she'll check with her manager. When she comes back she might offer let's say $10 a month. Tell her "No way". Then she put you on hold and comes back and offers their best price currently (I think) $7 a month., It's all a game.

It is true you have to speak to them to cancel your service. It will jump to the higher amount automatically in the second year. However, they did email me a month or so before the yearly service ended. So I called them up to negotiate for the following year offering no more than I paid the previous. You can cancel at any time and they prorate the charge to the month canceled.

My wife and I find it very convenient. I have ten preset buttons on my 20212 car and she has 15 on her 2019 auto. They have a huge inventory of stations in the hundreds that you can receive no matter where you're driving in the country, except when you go under an underpass or other block on the satellite signal. You can also listen to their stations on the internet with your cell phone or computer at home where they have even more special stations to listen to.

Here is their standard list. Notice they have music, sports, news and entertainment, comedy, Howard Stern, Seasonal Holiday stuff, etc.

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[faberryman]

Will there ever be another photographic movement?

 

[Sirius Glass]

Will there ever be another photographic movement?

Yes.

Next question please.

 

[Pieter12]

Will there ever be another photographic movement?

Yes, but if you don'y use flash or a high enough shutter speed, it will all be a blur.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Yes, but if you don'y use flash or a high enough shutter speed, it will all be a blur.

Use faster film and or a faster lens.

 

[redbandit]

we exist in several photography movements as we speek.

1. lomo/lomography for better or worse has gotten people into film photography killing the used camera market and raising film prices.

Although its turned out to be just a way to sell lomo branded film and cameras/accessories

2. HDR seems to be coming back again in the portrait world

3. digital editing seems to be the defacto "movement" at this time based on the amount of people making a living doing nothing but selling videos on how to use these programs as well as selling "pre made settings" to use at home.

4.instant cameras seems to be a trend now based on sales and the amount coming into the market.

5. instax seems to be a trend that is dying down. No one can afford them, and novelty is gone from it. Especially when they sell tiny printers that make tiny pictures from your cell phone.

6. the use of expired film is a trend that i think is dying down. Hard to keep it going when the large lots of old film are going bye bye. Cant finde a shipping container of bulk rolls of film from the 1970s all that often now.

But as far as a new photography movement coming around, It doesnt seem likely. The whole industry from retail selsl to the magazines to the software, is all set up for nothing other then selling what the camera companies are making.

In some ways the next trend may be nothing more then people realizing that they can shoot what they want and HOW they want to.

IE no one will feel forced to buy a mirrorless camera and then purchase an adapter that lets them use a 1950s movie camera lens on it for "that glorious visual effect" being sponsored by some famous photog at vogue..

Instead if they want to kick back and take cat photos with a scratched up pentax ME they will.

 

[MattKing]

we exist in several photography movements as we speek.

None of the above would constitute a photographic "movement" - just usage and market trends.
Movements are essentially relevant only in the world of art and publishing.
The trends may affect what eventually becomes a movement, but they aren't the movement themselves.

 

[Pieter12]

None of the above would constitute a photographic "movement" - just usage and market trends.
Movements are essentially relevant only in the world of art and publishing.
The trends may affect what eventually becomes a movement, but they aren't the movement themselves.

+1

 

[Sirius Glass]

Does it matter what the movement is or what it is called. I will probably photographing what I do and the way I do it because it works for me.

 

[VinceInMT]

Does the question “Will there ever be another photographic movement?” infer that there were movement specific to photography or have photographer worked within existing movements of the visual arts?

 

[Pieter12]

Does the question “Will there ever be another photographic movement?” infer that there were movement specific to photography or have photographer worked within existing movements of the visual arts?

Yes.

 

[BrianShaw]

I have ten preset buttons on my 20212 car

Wait, what... even that far into the future and still no Jetsons spaceship?

 

[redbandit]

None of the above would constitute a photographic "movement" - just usage and market trends.
Movements are essentially relevant only in the world of art and publishing.
The trends may affect what eventually becomes a movement, but they aren't the movement themselves.

no, lomo is a movement as it has made a company self sustaining.. and it may not be ideal it is a movement.

Or would you say those japanese photographers who do nothing but make macro shots of mini figures ARENT a movement?

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

Wait, what... even that far into the future and still no Jetsons spaceship?

That's my other vehicle.

 

[MattKing]

no, lomo is a movement as it has made a company self sustaining.. and it may not be ideal it is a movement.

Or would you say those japanese photographers who do nothing but make macro shots of mini figures ARENT a movement?

This thread is not about photographic trends. It is about what is described as a movement in the Art world.
Both of those trends may very well influence photographers who form part of a movement in the Art world.

 

[Pieter12]

no, lomo is a movement as it has made a company self sustaining.. and it may not be ideal it is a movement.

Or would you say those japanese photographers who do nothing but make macro shots of mini figures ARENT a movement?

Using a certain camera does not define a movement. Maybe lo-fi would qualify, photographers intentionally using poor-quality equipment for a style or effect. Home-made cameras could also be part of that. Your second example is closer. Here's a handy definition: "An art movement is a tendency or style in art with a specific common philosophy or goal, followed by a group of artists during a specific period of time, (usually a few months, years or decades) or, at least, with the heyday of the movement defined within a number of years."

 

[George Mann]

I can tell you that the best way to ensure the probability of another photographic movement is to start one ourselves.

 

[VinceInMT]

I can tell you that the best way to ensure the probability of another photographic movement is to start one ourselves.

We’ll need a manifesto:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_manifesto

Of course, we would have to agree on our “intentions, motives, or views.” What are the chances of that?

I am part of a relatively new art movement called the Urban Sketchers and we have a manifesto in case you are looking for an example: Urban Sketchers

 

[jtk]

People have been sketching since time immemorial, as have commercial photographers. Most of the photographers, whose work has always entailed more creativity than has amateur snapping. IMO.

 

[Sirius Glass]

We could start an f/1.0 movement, if I can find a lens with that aperture. There was a Canon with an f/0.95 but I could never find one to buy.

 

[redbandit]

People have been sketching since time immemorial, as have commercial photographers. Most of the photographers, whose work has always entailed more creativity than has amateur snapping. IMO.

I disagree with that. There are alot of means to view work online of "professional photographers" who actually get paid to take photographs for various websites.

And then see the "amatuer snapping" on photocrowd or even deviant art, provided you overlook the cartoon porn crap. That is actually superior to most of the "elite" photographers these days.