Sirius Glass
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That covers a lot of bases or was it basises [basisi, basisium ?]
Steve
Not so. It is possible to talk in relatively concrete terms about our reactions to a specific piece or body of work, whether we like it, etc, without ever once trying to define what "fine art" means or whether the work comes within that description.
Re the OP's question, I do not think that it is possible to give any useful definition of what constitutes fine art. Almost everyone defines it differently - I can call anything I want "fine art". You may disagree with my choice, but so what? Who are the art terminology police?
To me art is about practicing. There is, to me, craftsmanship involved. Any photographer that purposely go out of their way to create, convey, or speak something; who works hard in a darkroom to present a print that wholly is in unison with their vision and appreciation of the subject matter is an artist in my opinion. It's about the practice, about the purpose. Anybody can make a pretty picture. That's not art. The effort is. The effort to stand in front of your materials and try to make the best possible print you can. Whether it's to anybody else' liking or not is indifferent. That's opinion and a wholly subjective matter.
And I think I agree with Jason that reproductions don't count, no matter how good they are. Seriously, the hard work of the artist is diluted that way. Sure, it helps more people appreciate it, but it is only reproduction of the original art work. A copy.
QG - in your second last post you appear to have ascribed someone else's comment to me...
The content of the Wikipedia link is just another illustration of the fact that [...]
What makes a fine art photograph?
That would imply that everything done taking great effort would be art.
Is that so?
Is art only art when it is the result of blood sweat and tears? Do artist have to suffer to be able to produce art?
I don't believe that for one moment.
And i have taken great effort, gone all the way, exhausted myself to arrive at that conclusion.
I think you two are confusing a work of art with art.
So, even assuming this dictionary definition, why is photography that is directed solely at portraying beauty necessarily pretentious? Why must it only be "craft"? (I am happy to draw a distinction between art and craft, although I think good craft is almost always part of good art.) If a photographer can present a subject that is not often seen, or in a way that it is not often seen, and show you the beauty of it, that seems like something that might legitimately be called art, no?
Art, even good art, need not necessarily involve a statement beyond "Behold the beauty here that you have never noticed before". To do this well often requires some vision, beyond mere craft. Of course, what amounts to beauty anyway is a further can of worms again.
It would indeed imply that. But with a twist. I said that you work hard to "realize your vision". There's a difference.
Yikes!
The Wikimonster takes yet another victim!
A long time ago, people thought that what was true was what someone who knew said was true.
A bit later, someone said it had to be in accordance with the world to be true. Adaequatio ad rem, and all that.
Later still, it was changed to "true is what conforms to observation in most cases". Truth became a statistical matter.
We apparantly left that stage behind us, and moved on from "most cases count" to "most votes count".
A Wiki is an example of that, with an aditional clause, saying that the access to internet and time to spend editing wikis adds to veracity.
A Wikipedia article as a reference?
Fy on you!
This thread seems to have run its course. If I wanted to hear senseless chatter, I would have stayed married!![]()
Is there?
If someone is able to realize his or her vision with minimal effort, the implication still is that it cannot be art.
So a great genius, with very relevant, 'important' views on things, cannot be an artist, because it comes to easily to her or him?
Really doesn't make sense, does it?![]()
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