So what do the museums and galleries display?Calling anything fine art or even art, is just marketing. Nothing more.
Duchamp had the idea to use a urinal as art to test the sincerity of the Society of Independent Artists to show whatever their members submitted for a group show in1917. It was refused and never shown. Stieglitz photographed it that same year and his photo is the main document of the original piece. The original urinal was lost and replicas were made in the 50's and 60's for exhibition.You don't find a Duchamp around every corner. And the urinal is rather shapely you must admit. Note it is not sitting as it would on a wall. The new position takes it out of context and transforms it. But in the end it's the"idea" that is the art. If you have a good idea and the sensibility to go with it, you might just be an artist.
So what do the museums and galleries display?
Duchamp had the idea to use a urinal as art to test the sincerity of the Society of Independent Artists to show whatever their members submitted for a group show in1917. It was refused and never shown. Stieglitz photographed it that same year and his photo is the main document of the original piece. The original urinal was lost and replicas were made in the 50's and 60's for exhibition.
Now it's a pissing match.So it pissed off the members?
Now it's a pissing match.
Duchamp had the idea to use a urinal as art to test the sincerity of the Society of Independent Artists to show whatever their members submitted for a group show in1917. It was refused and never shown. Stieglitz photographed it that same year and his photo is the main document of the original piece. The original urinal was lost and replicas were made in the 50's and 60's for exhibition
Maybe it was just an administrative error.Maybe it wasn't shown because he signed it R. Mutt, and R. Mutt wasn't a member of the Society of Independent Artists.
Maybe it was just an administrative error.
I saw it at the Musee d'Art Moderne in Paris in the spring of 1976. It wasn't in the washroom. It was out in the middle of the exhibit floor along with some other pieces. People were sort of walking around it stroking their chins trying to figure it out, as if they were going to figure it out just by looking at it. Here is a hint: it is a urinal. Someone mentioned above that the original was lost and they substituted a copy. The one I saw had "R. Mutt 1917" written on it as plain as day. If a museum can show a fake urinal with a fake signature, I don't know why anyone is worried about Photoshop. Seems like we have bigger fish to fry.Or perhaps they actually installed it in the washroom when they received it.
I saw it at the Musee d'Art Moderne in Paris in the spring of 1976, and it wasn't in the washroom. It was out in the middle of the exhibit floor along with some other pieces. People were sort of walking around it stroking their chins trying to figure it out, as if they were going to figure it out just by looking at it. Someone mentioned above that the original was lost and they substituted a copy. The one I saw had R. Mutt 1917 written on it as plain as day. If a museum can show a fake urinal with a fake signature, I don't know why anyone is worried about Photoshop. Seems like we have bigger fish to fry.
I saw it at the Musee d'Art Moderne in Paris in the spring of 1976, and it wasn't in the washroom. It was out in the middle of the exhibit floor along with some other pieces. People were sort of walking around it stroking their chins trying to figure it out, as if they were going to figure it out just by looking at it. Someone mentioned above that the original was lost and they substituted a copy. The one I saw had R. Mutt 1917 written on it as plain as day. If a museum can show a fake urinal with a fake signature, I don't know why anyone is worried about Photoshop. Seems like we have bigger fish to fry.
Anything can piss people off. Some people like being pissed off, so much so they go looking for stuff to be pissed off about. They are a real joy to be around, virtually and in person.A fake in a museum could piss some people off.
Anything can piss people off. Some people like being pissed off, so much so they go looking for stuff to be pissed off about. They are a real joy to be around, virtually and in person.
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anybody can fart but, the smell is theart.I'm surprised this topic has only garnered mere 16 pages thus far.
Key to this subject is the fact that art rimes supremely well with fart. Imagine how a fine fart would have smelled like.
I saw it at the Musee d'Art Moderne in Paris in the spring of 1976. It wasn't in the washroom. It was out in the middle of the exhibit floor along with some other pieces. People were sort of walking around it stroking their chins trying to figure it out, as if they were going to figure it out just by looking at it. Here is a hint: it is a urinal. Someone mentioned above that the original was lost and they substituted a copy. The one I saw had "R. Mutt 1917" written on it as plain as day. If a museum can show a fake urinal with a fake signature, I don't know why anyone is worried about Photoshop. Seems like we have bigger fish to fry.
They were also exhibiting Duchamp's copy of the Mona Lisa with a moustache drawn on it. It is titled L.H.O.O.Q which is pronouced "Elle a chaud au cul" which translated means "She has a hot ass." Since Duchamp manipulated the Mona Lisa, no one knows if the one with a moustache or the one without a moustache is true, so everyone has lost faith in art.
Only a fine artist can produce fine art. To become a fine artist you go to a college, pay them lots of money, take a variety of classes, graduate with a fine art degree, and begin a life of poverty as you attempt to sell your fine art to people who either can't appreciate it or can't afford it or both. When you die, your fine art finally sells.
That used to be the case. Now you have to go to graduate school before you begin your life of poverty. There are just no shortcuts anymore.
Only a fine artist can produce fine art. To become a fine artist you go to a college, pay them lots of money, take a variety of classes, graduate with a fine art degree, and begin a life of poverty as you attempt to sell your fine art to people who either can't appreciate it or can't afford it or both. When you die, your fine art finally sells.
You’re close except that I waited until I was retired to get my BFA (graduate in a few weeks right before I turn 70) and I went tuition free because my state waves it for Vietnam Era Veterans and any resident age 65 or older. Since I have other resources, I don’t have to live in poverty which is good because what I have sold hasn’t created a serious taxable event. Maybe when I am gone my kids will discover a treasure trove in my studio.
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