Unusual Zorki 1 Soviet Leica clone rangefinder camera. Has anyone seen this ever?

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Hello,
Look carefully. Has anyone seen this ever?

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Nothing looks unusual to me, there were at least 5 slight variants of the Zorki 1 between 1948 and 1956, the name was either in Cyrillic or later Latin as well.

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What is that part on the left side of the hot shoe, behind the speed knob? Part of a flash sync device?
 

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This looks quite clean and very well finished. Nice example. Is it working well? What is the little plug or pin that sticks out behind the shutter speed dial?
 
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Nothing looks unusual to me, there were at least 5 slight variants of the Zorki 1 between 1948 and 1956, the name was either in Cyrillic or later Latin as well.

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Show Zorki-1 with a flash synchronizer.
 
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This looks quite clean and very well finished. Nice example. Is it working well? What is the little plug or pin that sticks out behind the shutter speed dial?

Everything works well. The shutter works smoothly and quietly. I have not changed anything in this camera. Not even wiped the dust. A green metal oxide is visible in some places. 70 years old dust on the camera.

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Show Zorki-1 with a flash synchronizer.

Many cameras were retro fitted with Flash synch, I remember a friendof my fathers telling me years ago that after leaving school he worked for a camera repair shop in the late 1940s or early 50's fr a short time and his job was adding flash synch to cameras an leaf shutters. My Leica IIIA has M and also X flash sync obviously added after WWII.

That does not look like it's factory fitted from new. KMZ would not have left that sharp point alongside the cold accessory shoe. Looks like a part cannibalised from something broken.

Oh welcome BTW, I don't remember seeing anyone lse from your region here :D

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They don't usually have the z flash sinc. I read somewhere that they did make some for export.
Mine is in equal mint condition without the flash sinc.....still doesnt work well, wish they did as they are smaller and lighter than a Leica. My Leicas all work fine, even much older used and abused ones.
 
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Many cameras were retro fitted with Flash synch, I remember a friendof my fathers telling me years ago that after leaving school he worked for a camera repair shop in the late 1940s or early 50's fr a short time and his job was adding flash synch to cameras an leaf shutters. My Leica IIIA has M and also X flash sync obviously added after WWII.

That does not look like it's factory fitted from new. KMZ would not have left that sharp point alongside the cold accessory shoe. Looks like a part cannibalised from something broken.

Oh welcome BTW, I don't remember seeing anyone lse from your region here :D

Ian

Thank you.

This synchro coated tube could be factory made only.
www.zenitcamera.com/archive/zorki/
"Through 1954 inclusive, continuous serial numbering of cameras was used for marking, then annual serial numbering was introduced, where the first two digits of the number corresponded to the last two digits of the year of manufacture."
The s/n of this camera is 52... - strange, does not correspond. Unusual camera.
The lens s/n is 54...
"Works on synchronization with flash lamps were carried out at the KMZ (department No. 7 of the Central Design Bureau) from September 1953 to March 1954." - 1954 year corresponds.

Please show Zorki-1 with a flash synchronizer.
 
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I want to try to sell some cameras here.
Please tell me what is needed for this?.....
....- What else is required?

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You need honesty, it's a common camera that has had a flash sync added, it's not special, but you seem to want to make it special. They go for £60 - £80 on eBay for a very good example, one that hasn't been butchered by having a flash sync added.
 
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You need honesty, it's a common camera that has had a flash sync added, it's not special, but you seem to want to make it special. They go for £60 - £80 on eBay for a very good example, one that hasn't been butchered by having a flash sync added.

I have not offered you any camera at any price.
You cannot show such a camera. You have never seen such a camera.
Think about your honesty.
 

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Macfred already told you what your model is. You need to find out the current value of it.
 
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Macfred already told you what your model is. You need to find out the current value of it.

Are you joking? Do you see the letter "C"?
Zorki-C started producing after three years.

I do not have Zorki-C.
I have not written or asked you for any value.
 

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Someone has converted a zorki 1 into a zorki 1c by putting the flash connector in a really bad position. Probably too lazy to strip down the camera to put in the conventional position. I had the same thing done on my Leica iiib.
Is there a collectors market for Zorki's? I thought people just buy them because they are cheap....thats why I bought mine, then I realised its better to spend a little more and get something that actually works.
 

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That's what I liked to say above - a Zorki 1 tinkered to a "synchronized" Zorki S(C) = "sinkhronizirovannyy" or "synchronized".
Could of been a factory modification or not. Looks like they made it from something to match the top plate. Again terrible spot for it, be hard to get my fatty fingers in there to rotate the speed dial.
 

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Here's another ...
https://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157824
from rangefinderforum.com 2016

It's a Zorki S (C in Cyrillic) - a redesign of the Zorki 1 that added flash sync.
Macfred already told you what your model is. You need to find out the current value of it.

No. Because the KMZ versions with flash synchronisation had the connector at the front plate, not at the top as in the OP's sample.


There have been several (post-manufacture) locations of the connector listed. The OP's version is seemingly the most advanced of these.
It uses a pressed plate that is mounted under the accessory shoe and which next the shoe forms a protrusion onto which the connector is mounted and behind which the wires are invisibly connected.
Making that plate is something that needs sheet metal pressing tools which rather indicates an industrial product. But to my understanding such a camera model was not made by KMZ.

Thus some some workshop must have made these plates and used them for own conversions or sold these plates to repairers to modify old Zorki models.

Rests the question why using such plate and not mounting the connector just directly into the body as done by repairers and in the series samples?
What benefit this plate yields?
That the sync cable does not interfere with the right hand fingers grasping the camera, as in the series models?
Lesser disassembly work for mounting the connector?
 
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