@-persimmon-tree- the VF has a bright frame with parallax compensation for 6x9 and 6x7. The clip-on mask is to aid framing if you are using the multi-format back crops. The bright frame would still move but not the mask obviously. From the picture you have a single-format back.
@Paul Howell the multi-format backs also require a mask for the film gate (for 6x6 and 6x4.5) and are advanced using the red window. The 6x7 version has automatic advance for 6x7, red window for the crops.
@-persimmon-tree- check at the bottom of https://butkus.org/chinon/mamiya.htm
There are about 8 links to manuals from the Mamiya Press series of cameras and accessories.
Some people do like square images. I'm just not one of them. I have had friends and family members with very expensive 6X6 cameras and Zeiss lenses. They nearly always ended up cropping the image rectangular.
The logic behind square is ... , but potentially crop the shot either way.
The logic behind it is the best use of the lens circle.
I recently aquired a photo album, with pictures that are by my guessing from the 30s or early 40s. It has mostly family shots, excursions, etc. They are all square and are very well framed.
Konica Rapid is a great cameras with great lens, only issues is the rachat style advance, The rachat is prone to wear and tear, after 50s years will not be repairable.
Hello!
First of all, I want to say I love this forum and the wisdom provided here -- I've been posting a decent amount of questions and was always helped substantially.
I bought a Pentax 67 as my first entry into serious MF (I've used a Holga before). The winding mechanism almost immediately broke, and the seller agreed to take it back for a full refund. I'm now wanting to do more research about which camera I should get. I've always really liked the look of the Pentax 67, and went for it on sort of an impulse, but I want to make sure to explore my options in more detail.
I mostly take 35mm and am interested in half frame for everyday photography. I want to use MF for more planned out, slow photos. I'd like to be able to carry it around in a backpack and ideally go on some short hikes, but I'm not going to be carrying it on crazy 10 mile hikes, doing street photography, or carrying it around for very long periods of time. It will mostly be used for street and nature scenes and portraits. I also don't need ultra super mega high definition sharpness. More sharpness is better, but I'm not going to be making gigantic massive prints of everything I take. I am just a hobbyist and am fine with very mild concessions in quality that you can only witness when looking at things ultra close up, for a lower cost. I expect to shoot almost entirely on a tripod.
I'm interested in 6x7 SLR ideally, but one rangefinder is also here. The camera is unlikely to get heavy use. I may shoot 4 rolls a month, on a heavy month.
I don't want to spend more than $1,000 on everything I need to get shooting (body, lens, finder, etc).
Current options I'm considering:
Pentax 67 MLU
Pros: I like the look and workflow on the one I used, good array of lenses, seems fairly available
Cons: seems prone to breaking (may just be my experience), cost
Mamiya RB67
Pros: modularity, availability, all mechanical which I like
Cons: Have heard that it is also prone to breaking randomly and suddenly, but not sure how accurate this is. Size seems inconvenient but not that big of a deal for my usage.
Fuji GX680
Pros: Really cool modularity and options, lens movements are interesting to me, I kind of like that it's a bit insane, cost is good
Cons: lots of electronics which seem hard to replace and prone to breaking at their age, gigantic size
Bronica GS-1
Pros: cost is good, I like the modular options and handles and such
Cons: from what I've researched, it's harder to find a version in really good condition because fewer were made. Build quality seems somewhat lower than rb67
Fujica GM670
Pros: lower cost, seems really easy to use, all mechanical and I haven't heard anything about them failing or being very difficult/expensive to repair
Cons: rangefinder rather than SLR. I don't like this as much for framing. Also, the fact that it is a smaller and lighter camera is weirdly a slight con for me. I like being forced into a very very slow workflow, but I realize this is a bit of a silly "con".
I am open to also trying out an even cheaper 6x6, maybe a cheap TLR, and then continuing to wait and save up. Not that interested in Hasselblad. Would consider other options like the Kiev 60, but doesn't seem to have any distinct benefits.
Any insights here are much appreciated. I am continuing to do more research, but every time I've posted here, I always heard something new! Thanks.
my current hobby is medium format stereo using colour transparency film,
I am into that too. Do you project? I want to know how to make a metalic screen. Buying is not an option as they are rare to find and transport is a problem.
6X6 camera makers made extra money on optional film stretching devices, just in case people changed their minds. Weegee had one of those. That's back when Rubbermaid still made film base as an alternative to acetate or PET.
If a rangefinder is under consideration the Konica Rapid is a great cameras with great lens, only issues is the rachat style advance, it is pull push that gives the Rapid its name, advances the film and cocks the shutter. The rachat is prone to wear and tear, after 50s years will not be repairable. Other option is a Mamiya Press or Universal, with 6X7 back. I have used a Universal for over 30s years, I have both the 6X7 and 6X9 backs, 4 lenses, and the grip. I shoot a couple of rolls with it yesterday, as I am getting older it gets heavier and heavier. Another advantage of the 645 system, so much lighter.
The film advance isn't on a ratchet but on a trapped roller clutch which is quite robust. What happens though is that the grease in the clutch dries and stiffens, causing it to freewheel in both directions. Other issues I've had: 1) the gear rack slides on a flat nylon bushing which developed tears; 2) the gear rack had too much play on its guide posts. All these issues were fixable.I wonder if a machine shop could not mill a new ratchet?
It is true that when we simply scan the scene our attention is essentially panoramic. Square images seldom work well for landscapes. There is frequently too much foreground. But when we focus on specific subjects or objects our vision narrows, both figuratively and literally.Then square can be very powerful format to compose within, yet that is not how human eye sees the world.
Another vote for Hasselblad:
In 1966, we shot 20 to 30 rolls a day with a 500C, 500EL, 50, 80, and,150 and 2 C12 magazines--and NEVER had an equipment failure.
Shooting fashion shows meant having the other magazine loaded quickly, and that was my job when starting out.
Have shot from 35 to 8x10, and my 500CM is my "go to" guy.
Even had a colleague drop his 500C from a ladder, and after he stopped screaming about his disastrous move, he climbed down the ladder, picked up his 500C, and continued the shoot without missing a beat (slight pun there).
I dont think that is the logic behind it. The logic behind it is the best use of the lens circle.
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