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I just didn't underline or circle it, so its easy to miss.

Easy to miss means not prominent. I read the quick-start guide, but that factoid didn't register. I'm sure others will make this mistake, so perhaps highlight it in yellow or something?

I guess we'll have to be content with the fact that Stouffer's numbers vary more than we'd like. In a system, multiple errors add up. We can argue that "nobody can see this error", but when adding the other errors in the system, it can become obvious as a print that's too light/dark or contrast is off. Wedge densities will be crucial for my work in both printing, and for creating H-D curves for film, as I'll soon be working on developers. So all this is why I'm putting so much effort into getting accurate densities of this wedge.

You mentioned NIST and Acurad. Applied Image also appears to make them: https://www.appliedimage.com/product-category/gray-scales-step-tablets/
Do you know anything about them?
This is probably the wedge ("tablet") you want: https://www.appliedimage.com/product/st-22/
They say that "NIST Traceable products are calibrated to order," so perhaps that would be your "gold standard" for much less than $5k.

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Easy to miss means not prominent. I read the quick-start guide, but that factoid didn't register. I'm sure others will make this mistake, so perhaps highlight it in yellow or something?
Yeah, going over that phrase with a highlighter isn't a bad idea.

X-Rite actually puts very little effort into mentioning this at all. Its buried deep in the manual for the 301, and not mentioned at all in the manual for the 800-series. The only way to really know is to look at which side of their calibration references they put the main sticker on.

I guess we'll have to be content with the fact that Stouffer's numbers vary more than we'd like. In a system, multiple errors add up. We can argue that "nobody can see this error", but when adding the other errors in the system, it can become obvious as a print that's too light/dark or contrast is off. Wedge densities will be crucial for my work in both printing, and for creating H-D curves for film, as I'll soon be working on developers. So all this is why I'm putting so much effort into getting accurate densities of this wedge.
I absolutely agree that errors can add up. I actually thought a lot about this when deciding how to do the batch measuring of the strips I ship with the PD. The issue is that if every step has an instrument that can only muster +/- 0.02D, errors multiply and eventually you have a problem.

Ultimately, the reason I decided to use a freshly calibrated "golden device" PD, instead of something like an X-Rite, is because I can personally calibrate my device far more accurately to my own upstream references than something else. (Or more specifically, I can calibrate the linearity of my device's measurements to match an upstream step wedge, whereas there's no user accessible/documented way of doing that with other devices.)

You mentioned NIST and Acurad. Applied Image also appears to make them: https://www.appliedimage.com/product-category/gray-scales-step-tablets/
Do you know anything about them?
This is probably the wedge ("tablet") you want: https://www.appliedimage.com/product/st-22/
They say that "NIST Traceable products are calibrated to order," so perhaps that would be your "gold standard" for much less than $5k.
I think Stouffer also claims NIST Traceable, and also offers the certificate if you pay them extra.
In any case, I'm not personally familiar with Applied Image. And their website is quite vague as to the specifics of how they measure their materials.
However, if you're curious, I suggest trying to start a conversation with them to ask all of the usual questions. (i.e. what devices do you actually use, how do you calibrate them, what are your own references, etc.)

I'm very much curious as to how they compare to Stouffer, and whether they're actually better or just more expensive with a better website.

Frankly, this whole Stouffer inconsistency is baffling to me too. So I'm curious how this all shakes out in the end.

(One thing I've been struggling with, is actually finding anything transmission related with color density calibration data. But again, off-topic for this thread.)
 

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I'm just gonna add a few comments on here. In my work life I've used probably several dozen different densitometers, mostly Macbeth or in the X-rite 810 family.

I don't recall where it came from, but it was common knowledge that the film samples (transmission) should be in a certain orientation. But... in practical terms, it didn't seem to make much difference. Maybe 0.01 difference for C-41 control strips, or for Kodak b&w film strips. I'm going from distant memory on this, but I did train a number of people how to read such strips, and made it a point to have them read from both sides. Just so they would know that there COULD be a difference.

Regarding "color" differences with b&w film... the standard method for reading b&w (silver) control strips, or just b&w film in general, is to use the "visual" response setting on a densitometer. But by way of demonstrating the effect of using a color densitometer, any of red, green, or blue response gave very nearly the same readings for "typical" b&w film. (I appreciate that certain situations can give a visual color tone, and in these cases the color densitometers will likely reflect that.) I should be clear that I was using almost exclusively Status M for the transmission units.

I'm attaching an image of a couple old X-rite calibration plaques to demonstrate the similarity of values between "visual" vs the status M color values.
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Note: as dkonigs suggests, the X-rite plaque has dull side (presumably the emulsion side) down.

Something that is not obvious is that the commercial densitometer have a certain optical geometry according to ISO standards. This is discussed briefly in "The Handbook of Photographic Science and Engineering," both issues have a couple pages. If someone uses a different geometry, at least with silver film, I would expect the results to have a different contrast.
 
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I absolutely agree that errors can add up

Back in my post #16, I stated that I learned from Stouffer that their step increment tolerances increase with increasing density. Here they are again:

Steps 1-4 .02
Steps 5-7 .03
Step 8 .04
Step 9 .05
Steps 10-11 .06
Steps 12-13 .07
Step 14 .08
Steps 15-16 .09
Steps 17-21 .10

I had noted that the PD measurements, while not the same as the Stouffer measurements, were, I thought, well within those step tolerances, especially from step #12 and up. Are those step tolerances related to NIST?

I'm sure my view on it is too simplistic here, but what is the actual "error" if the PD measurements are within those tolerances? I don't even know if it's a valid question but my mind keeps going back to these step tolerances increasing with increasing density.
 

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I have no idea where one would get primary standards today. Historically, Shepard & Mees, as photography students in the early 1900s, used a certain burning rate of acetylene gas (as I recall) under a certain atmospheric pressure to establish light output. (Details are published in their "Investigations into the Theory of the Photographic Process."

Back when I was a wet-behind-the-ears QC tech we used a Kodak sensitometer for paper testing. It used a very expensive tungsten lamp that came with a calibration card. It specified the lamp "position" (the sensitometer had an internal scale) as well as an amperage setting (the sensitometer had a good-sized ammeter on the outside). At the spec amperage and lamp position the lamp would deliver a specific color temperature and light output to the sample holder. So Kodak was essentially setting the conditions for the certification of the lamp.

We also had some separate densitometer reference standards, again from Kodak and expensive. One, actually maybe a pair, were baked enamel for reflection densitometers. As I recall a set of various color patches as well as a set of neutrals in various densities. The transmission standard seemed to be photographic film with a number of calibrated steps, mostly as a linearity check. As I recall this was always in close agreement with the densitometer calibration plaques for "vis". (Not the same exact values, but when a densitometer was calibrated it would read nearly identical to similar Kodak test patches.)

I'm kinda doubtful that one could get the same things from Kodak today, but who knows? Having been from a large user of photo materials I have firsthand experience of incredible deep-inside technical support way beyond what most forum members here would expect (under corporate secrecy agreements). (But it has to ultimately be paid for somehow; they're unlikely to bend over backwards for small-scale customers.)

One last comment, regarding Kodak step wedges. This is what we always used (I think that perhaps Stouffer took over that part of their business). Our standard test wedge was the 21-step in 0.15 log increments. They were ALWAYS real close to 0.15. Maybe on occasion you might get one or two steps that were off by 0.02. We hand plotted onto the official Kodak curve-plotting paper; the step-wedge errors were not even worth correcting on the plots.

Regarding Kodak calibrated-step-wedges; we once spent the (exorbitant) price for one of these, "just to see." Then we read it on one of our Macbeth densitometers. It was nearly a dead match. Everything was identical except for perhaps two patches that read 0.01 different. So we decided there was no need to ever get another calibrated wedge; we could do it ourselves in 5 minutes.
 

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I would like to second Mr. Bill's observation that differences in densitometer measurements are due to the geometry of the optics and the spectral properties of the light source and the detector.

Expecting results from different densitometers that match to the last decimal place is being overly optimistic. Best to just accept the discrepancies and move on.

From the data presented here I'd say the agreement is excellent. The deviations are in the slope of the measurements - and as expected the method-to-method deviation increases with density, what else can it do. I would suggest picking one method as the "reference standard" and applying a multiplicative correction to the other methods to bring them into line with the reference.

Programming this multiplicative 'fudge factor' into the densitometer is what transmission densitometer calibration is all about. The calibration is there to compensate for differences in spectral response and optical geometry between the factory's reference unit and yours. In the bad old days of analog logarithmic converters the calibration procedure was also there to correct for drift in the electronics and if you have one of these older models then frequent calibration checks are in order.

A transmission densitometer only needs two measurements to calibrate: a dark measurement and a blank measurement with the light on and no sample in the light path - a measurement of 0.000 density. The density of a sample is then calculated as:

Unfudged density = log ((blank - dark) / (sample - dark))

To determine the relative density between two samples one of the measurements becomes the blank. In the Darkroom Automation meter a blank is measured when the delta/reference button is pressed. The DA meter uses log base 2 to present the result in stops. Densitometers use log base 10 and present the result as OD. Me, I'm firmly opposed to base 10 - a base suitable for people who can only count on their fingers and is otherwise useless.

Reflection densitometry is a bit more complicated as you need a reference white sample and you really need Ulbricht spheres for the source and the detector.

I'm a believer in unfudged numbers. Any corrections should be either applied outside the instrument or should be explicit in the instrument's operation. The raw readings should always be available. Hiding corrections behind a 'calibration' procedure, while making things appear copacetic on the surface, leads to confusion when digging deeper.
 
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... mind keeps going back to these step tolerances increasing with increasing density.

It's simple - just look at the graphs in posts #38, #48 et al.. The lines start at a common point at 0.00 and then diverge at higher densities - all the instruments are linear they just look at the sample in a different way.

Additionally as the OD increases the signal decreases, and thus the signal to noise ratio gets worse and readings bounce around more. This bouncing, along with any non-linearity and optical differences, gets amplified at high densities because we are looking at the logarithms of small numbers. And in modern instruments there are quantization effects from A/D conversion that also get magnified at high density/low signal strength.
 
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It's simple - just look at the graphs in posts #38, #48 et al.. The lines start at a common point at 0.00 and then diverge at higher densities - all the instruments are linear they just look at the sample in a different way.

Yes I understand why the lines begin to diverge due to greater deviations in readings with increasing density......but my question is......if the PD measurements are within Stouffer's stated tolerances on the much more dense half of the wedge.......is there an actual "error" that needs addressing in the calibration of the PD? Perhaps I'm asking an invalid question.
 

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Yes I understand why the lines begin to diverge due to greater deviations in readings with increasing density......but my question is......if the PD measurements are within Stouffer's stated tolerances on the much more dense half of the wedge.......is there an actual "error" that needs addressing in the calibration of the PD? Perhaps I'm asking an invalid question.
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I wouldn't call it an "error" - more a difference of opinion between different methods and different instrumentation. You will never get rid of it.

As the usual use for a step tablet is doing quick sensitometric tests then a DA enlarging meter might be a good choice as it is using the optics used to expose the paper or film. If you put the step tablet in an enlarger you will be rather dissapointed in the denser patches as they will be swamped by flare and stray light. For testing paper this isn't a big deal as paper has a limited ~5 stop/1.5 OD exposure range. Film, though, has a ~10 stop/3 OD capture range and so it would be best to contact print the tablet; and step tablets are properly designed to be contact printed anyways.
 

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The most accurate test of materials I know of is to control exposure time rather than light intensity, A series of 1/10th stop exposure strips - using a Durst test strip jig - yields precise results. The tedium of pushing 10" strips of paper through the jig and making 50 separate exposures to get 50 shades of grey is positively sadomasochistic. You should, of course, be wearing something suitable, like a Gieves & Hawkes suit, while instructing your 'assistant' as she performs the exercise.
 

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Derek and albada are using the that wordology, as if there's some kind off error that needs fixing........I'm just trying to follow along since I now own a PD.
Maybe I used the wrong terminology, or we're simply mincing words over definitions of terms. So let's stop using the word "error," but rather "difference from expected value." Yes, by the dictionary definition, that's the same thing, but a lot of this conversation is really about trying to find out what the expected value should actually be.

In any case, the "difference" you've uncovered is not a difference in how correctly various instruments are doing their job. Its a difference in how other people have measured the same materials you're using for calibration and testing.

If you want the PD to give readings that more closely match the calibrated step wedge you just bought from Stouffer, then use the step wedge you just bought from Stouffer as the calibration reference.

If you want the PD to give readings that more closely match the calibrated step wedge that I bought from Stouffer a year and a half ago, then use the step wedge I included with the unit as the calibration reference.


In any case, Nicholas explained some of the factors best in post #56, so I'll add my comments to a few snippets from it:
Programming this multiplicative 'fudge factor' into the densitometer is what transmission densitometer calibration is all about. The calibration is there to compensate for differences in spectral response and optical geometry between the factory's reference unit and yours. In the bad old days of analog logarithmic converters the calibration procedure was also there to correct for drift in the electronics and if you have one of these older models then frequent calibration checks are in order.
This. Modern sensors and LED-based light sources do not really have much of a drift problem, but there are still a number of variables that do need calibration to get the expected results.

The "target calibration" process (what's been discussed above) is basically measuring an unobstructed light source, assuming its density is 0.00, then measuring a "dark" target, and assuming its density is whatever you tell it. It then does the math to see where the things you're actually measuring with the device fall in relation to those two values, on a logarithmic scale.

If we don't involve calibration, and assume perfect equipment, then transmission density is essentially defined as:

D = -log10 T

Where "T" is defined as the ratio of light detected by the sensor as passing through the target material, to light that would be detected if the path from the light source to the sensor was unobstructed.

Reflection densitometry is a bit more complicated as you need a reference white sample and you really need Ulbricht spheres for the source and the detector.
Reflection is actually both easier and harder.

Its easier, because there seems to be far less variation in how accurately the calibration materials are measured and how many options for them exist. Not only can you buy calibrated references from Stouffer and X-Rite (that agree with each other), but you can also buy laboratory grade reflection references that are pretty good as well. Furthermore, the market for new high-end reflection-only densitometers is far larger and still meaningfully exists, thanks to various printing industries.

Its harder because "0.00" is theoretically defined, so you have to calibrate against both "white" and "dark" reference materials. And yes, if you want to measure a surface with complex textures, you do need an integrating sphere as part of the setup. But normal densitometers intended for photographic purposes don't do that, as ISO 5-4:2009 just mentions having a 45 degree angle between the sensor and the light source. (The massive benchtop Spectrophotometers from X-Rite do use an integrating sphere, though.)
 

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Mr Bill mentioned a baked enamel plaque.

This is what it looks like.

The Macbeth operator’s guide mentions emulsion up.

And the issue is described in Mees the Theory of the Photographic Process. Mees mentioned this discrepancy led to a fight between Hurter and Driffield and their critics.
 

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Maybe I used the wrong terminology, or we're simply mincing words over definitions of terms. So let's stop using the word "error," but rather "difference from expected value."

Good enough and thanks for all the input...... I am listening intently to what's being said as I find it very interesting, but sometimes, honestly, with all the various inputs, the weeds get hard to navigate.

Regarding whether or not I calibrate using your provided calibration strip....or.... I use step #20, as you suggest, of the the actual step wedge from which I'll be generating, essentially, every curve that I may choose........it seems that I should use the wedge. Does this make sense or is it basically a 6 or 1/2 dozen point of view?
 

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And the issue is described in Mees the Theory of the Photographic Process. Mees mentioned this discrepancy led to a fight between Hurter and Driffield and their critics.

Is that anything like discussions here concerning how or whether to divide up a $13 package of D-76?? :whistling:
 

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Something that is not obvious is that the commercial densitometer have a certain optical geometry according to ISO standards. This is discussed briefly in "The Handbook of Photographic Science and Engineering," both issues have a couple pages. If someone uses a different geometry, at least with silver film, I would expect the results to have a different contrast.

@Mr Bill, your remark above about "optical geometry" made me realize that the PD uses a diffuse light-source under the sample, whereas my enlarger is nearly a point light-source. So I remeasured using diffuse light, and you are right: The contrast changed. But the slope of the line went up, increasing the discrepancy with Stouffer's numbers. And the suggestion by @Nicholas Lindan to check spectrum showed that red has a higher slope also. My conclusion of all this is:

Measure the densities of your wedge under actual conditions.

Measure them using the same optical geometry and same light-source as in actual usage. Densities differ significantly based on factors such as spectrum and geometry. Thus, there is no single density.

So what's the use of a transmission densitometer? It's useful for measuring densities (and thus CI) of film. You'll measure the wedge and film under the same conditions that are provided by the densitometer itself. That's the only way to get an apples-to-apples comparison of negatives. But I guess such a densitometer isn't as useful for predicting what will happen with prints.

Why would a red light produce a higher slope on a Stouffer wedge? My theory is that the spacing of grains in the wedge caused destructive interference at my red wavelength of 660 nm. If so, @dkonigs will face this additional factor when calibrating a color densitometer.

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My conclusion of all this is:

Measure the densities of your wedge under actual conditions.
Measure them using the same optical geometry and same light-source as in actual usage. Densities differ significantly based on factors such as spectrum and geometry. Thus, there is no single density.
I pretty much concur.

I took a closer look back at the SPSE Handbook of Photographic Science and Engineering (1973), which has a table of preferred densitometer "geometries" for various applications.

The geometries are, mainly, "diffuse" (a diffusion material or integrating sphere on one side of the sample, "double-diffuse" (diffusion material on both sides), or "projection" (with a lens arrangement, like condensers, on either side of the sample). So clearly, most commercial densitometers are the diffuse (single diffusion) style.

Per the table, a diffuse densitometer is suggested for either typical contact printing OR a diffusion enlarger (specifically where the diffusion is close to the negative).

For printing with a condenser enlarger it is suggested to use a "projection" densitometer with an aperture around f/4.5. I presume that this pertains mainly to "silver" films where scattering by the silver is an issue. I don't believe that color neg films, using only a dye image, are subject to thus (again, the Callier Q factor should be close to 1 for color neg). At any rate I was primarily a color neg process guy, and we happily used the standard "diffuse" style color densitometers for everything. As did probably just about every such lab. In fact, the major use of color densitometers in photography, from about mid 1980s, was almost certainly for process control in minilabs. At least in the US.

As a note, it occurs to me that photrio member Kino is a motion-picture lab guy, and thus he perhaps has experience with "projection" densitometers.

Why would a red light produce a higher slope on a Stouffer wedge? My theory is that the spacing of grains in the wedge caused destructive interference at my red wavelength of 660 nm.
I have no idea why, but perhaps testing your system with a coarser grain film might give some clues. Fwiw the standard "red" densitometer responses are not too far away, spectrally, and don't seem to see such an issue. Maybe it's related to the LEDs having a narrower spectral zone?
 

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@albada and @Mr Bill

The info and advice tracks well with Todd-Zakia Photographic Sensitometry where the geometries are called optical system and classified as diffuse, doubly diffuse and specular.

The nature of the receptor is classified as visual, photoelectric and printing.

The US standard is “diffuse visual” and you will see that marked on many graphs.

Todd-Zakia lamented that commercially available densitometers are all secondary instruments. They mention one instrument is based on the inverse square law of light and is thus a primary instrument. Then they show a diagram of the Marshall Studios densitometer.



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I find it hard to believe that Kodak engineers really still use a visual densitometer like my Marshall Studios, so I think the definition of “visual” drifted to mean “using the visual channel on a photoelectric densitometer” (the channel with the amber Wratten 106 filter).

The best densitometer is a print. Think how good test strips are when you print.

In 1909 Callier looked for a way correlate the different geometries. You might be familiar with the Callier effect. You can figure out a Callier coefficient. Scattering varies with graininess (with many exceptions) so tests would be needed for each film and enlarger combination.
 
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@albada and @Mr Bill

Todd-Zakia lamented that commercially available densitometers are all secondary instruments. They mention one instrument is based on the inverse square law of light and is thus a primary instrument. Then they show a diagram of the Marshall Studios densitometer.

Bill, do you use your Marshall Studios densitometer? Its lack of a need for calibration is appealing. It's too bad such a device is not longer made.

I unwittingly created another kind of primary instrument based on PWM (pulsing) of an LED created by a digital counter or microcontroller. I modified the software in my controller for my LED-head, but I drove the flash LED instead of the main LEDs to avoid electrical distortion caused by the LED-driver chips. Using a low frequency such as 64 Hz, one can cover 6-7 stops of attenuation via PWM before ramp up/down times start distorting light output. That's across 2 meters of wire; you could attenuate more with short wires. I used a meter solely to match (1) non-PWM light passing through a sample with (2) PWM light. That matching does not require a calibration anywhere, making such a device primary. However, it relies on the sensor having good reciprocity between time and brightness.

This device gave me high confidence in the easel meter sold by Darkroom Automation (http://www.darkroomautomation.com/em.htm). That meter was accurate to within 2 hundredths of a stop over a 7-stop range, and even that error might have been my fault because it occurred with short-and-iffy PWM pulses.

The device also helped convince me that density varies based on multiple factors, so one really should measure a step-wedge himself in the environment of actual usage.

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As another observation, I've recently got and refurbished/aligned an Ilford densitometer.
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Please note the hammer was not used.

I also own a calibrated stouffer tablet, and used the densitometer to read the densities.

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With the following results.

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I have consistently lower densities using the ilford densitometer.

Then, I grabbed the stouffer tablet, and put it in my Kaiser condenser enlarger in a glass carrier. I put Mr. Lindan's baseboard meter in a fixed place in the middle; checked that illumination was exactly -5 stops going from f/2 to f/16 in my enlarger lens, and measured the baseboard densities. Sadly I could get only to step 16, as I got to over 9.99 stops.
Anyhow, as expected due to Callier effect, all baseboard densities are effectively larger.
I then plotted all my measurements (Ilford densitometer, stouffer claimed calibration, and the Mr. Lindan's meter) using excel as follows:


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As you can see, it's quite lineal, so we can ask excel to calculate trendlines and divide its coefficients to calculate the Q coefficients between the measurements.

To get a stouffer density from the ilford densitometer, multiply by 1.18, and to get a baseboard density (in my enlarger, at my height) from the stouffer tablet, multiply by 1.11.
'm quite happy as this seems to show that the ilford densitometer has not faded, keeping linearity between steps. I don't get why it has less apparent density, maybe overall flare - but then that wouldn't be like a veiling glaze affecting non linearly all measurements?
It was also good to see the practice matching the theory - a measured density in the baseboard of a condenser enlarger - which is the density that gets applied to the paper - will be higher than one measured via a diffusion densitometer.
 
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My new Stouffer Step Wedge came in today. It is very clean this time.............they packaged the wedge inside a clear plastic sleeve before placing it in the Stouffer rigid envelope so that the wedge does not come in contact with calibration sheet. I suspect they will do that in all instances going forward. Below are the Stouffer calibration readings up against the PD readings. PD-cal 1 is with the PD calibrated using the CAL-HI density of 2.92 off the calibration strip that came with it. PD-cal 2 is with the PD calibrated using step #20 (density of 2.84) of the Stouffer step wedge. Just as Derik had predicted, the PD was more in line with Stoufer readings at greater densities when calibrating from step #20.

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albada

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On the left graph, Stouffer and PD have separated at D=2.5 about the same as mine, so I still think Stouffer is not as tight with controls as we'd like.

Derek, if your densitometer has the ability to PWM its lower LED, you could hack one to measure density relative to a sensor-open measurement by changing PWM until the sensor reads the same as sensor-open, assuming the sensor can average over one or more PWM periods. I think this would give you accurate densities of your gold wedges.

Anyway, the Printalyzer Densitometer provides much for the money. Bill and I are both glad we got one.
 

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My new Stouffer Step Wedge came in today. It is very clean this time.............they packaged the wedge inside a clear plastic sleeve before placing it in the Stouffer rigid envelope so that the wedge does not come in contact with calibration sheet. I suspect they will do that in all instances going forward. Below are the Stouffer calibration readings up against the PD readings. PD-cal 1 is with the PD calibrated using the CAL-HI density of 2.92 off the calibration strip that came with it. PD-cal 2 is with the PD calibrated using step #20 (density of 2.84) of the Stouffer step wedge. Just as Derik had predicted, the PD was more in line with Stoufer readings at greater densities when calibrating from step #20.

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One happy camper!
 
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