The pretty close to definitive guide to how you screwed up

Love by the Seine

A
Love by the Seine

  • 2
  • 0
  • 119
the end....

D
the end....

  • 1
  • 2
  • 156
Balloon Man

A
Balloon Man

  • 3
  • 1
  • 185
Untitled

A
Untitled

  • 8
  • 0
  • 204
On The Mound

A
On The Mound

  • 7
  • 0
  • 231

Recent Classifieds

Forum statistics

Threads
189,701
Messages
2,645,595
Members
97,330
Latest member
smellyloris
Recent bookmarks
0

Sirius Glass

Subscriber
Joined
Jan 18, 2007
Messages
48,304
Location
Southern California
Format
Multi Format
Bronicas are long gone, damn nice cameras, but not even close to blad in the beautiful and design department. And Zeiss is pretty much the most amazing glass period.

As a 12 year old I wanted a Bronica in the worst way. I as an adult I brought Hasselblads.
 

Sirius Glass

Subscriber
Joined
Jan 18, 2007
Messages
48,304
Location
Southern California
Format
Multi Format
When I was 12 I wanted a Hasselblad. The Bronica wasn't around. I couldn't afford medium format until I was growed up :smile:

Unless you are really old because the Bronicas have been around since the late 1950s early 1960s.
 

mshchem

Subscriber
Joined
Nov 26, 2007
Messages
12,046
Location
Iowa City, Iowa USA
Format
Medium Format
Unless you are really old because the Bronicas have been around since the late 1950s early 1960s.
They weren't around in Cedar Rapids Iowa, at least I didn't see one. We had 3 shops the high-end shop was Sanford's. Hasselblads, Leica, Nikon, etc. Maybe they had Bronicas but I don't remember. I lusted after Hasselblads. I have 5 now. Maybe I should get more.:smile::smile::smile:
 

Sirius Glass

Subscriber
Joined
Jan 18, 2007
Messages
48,304
Location
Southern California
Format
Multi Format
They weren't around in Cedar Rapids Iowa, at least I didn't see one. We had 3 shops the high-end shop was Sanford's. Hasselblads, Leica, Nikon, etc. Maybe they had Bronicas but I don't remember. I lusted after Hasselblads. I have 5 now. Maybe I should get more.:smile::smile::smile:

You cannot have too many Hasselblads.
 

Donald Qualls

Subscriber
Joined
Jan 19, 2005
Messages
11,310
Location
North Carolina
Format
Multi Format
A well maintained RB67 is pretty darn nice. And you can use the old Graflex roll holders.

And I do. I shoot 6x4.5 (with a Mamiya roll film back!), 6x6 (Graflex 22), 6x7 (Mamiya and Graflex RH10), and I've used a Graflex 23 (to get every millimeter of wide out of a 23 mm lens setup). And all of those also work on the Century, giving access (as I build up inventory) to a whole different breed of lenses.
 

weasel

Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2006
Messages
167
Format
Medium Format
here is my latest screw up. Went to develop some film I had shot. After loading the tank, realized I didnt have enough developer. So, went to make some d76 h , and after measuring the metol, my scale died. I had to go town to get batteries. So far, so good. But, in mixing the developer, which is metol, sodium sulfite, and borax, I got distracted, and left out the borax. Surprisingly enough, the negatives while not great or what I wanted, are printable. So, 2.5 grams metol, 100g sodium sulfite will develop film, lol.
 

tokam

Member
Joined
Nov 7, 2008
Messages
574
Location
Sydney, Aust
Format
Multi Format
@weasel it sounds like you made a weak D23ish type developer. Could call it D8 as you had about 1/3 the amount of metol as D-76 normally has. :wink:
 

Donald Qualls

Subscriber
Joined
Jan 19, 2005
Messages
11,310
Location
North Carolina
Format
Multi Format
here is my latest screw up. Went to develop some film I had shot. After loading the tank, realized I didnt have enough developer. So, went to make some d76 h , and after measuring the metol, my scale died. I had to go town to get batteries. So far, so good. But, in mixing the developer, which is metol, sodium sulfite, and borax, I got distracted, and left out the borax. Surprisingly enough, the negatives while not great or what I wanted, are printable. So, 2.5 grams metol, 100g sodium sulfite will develop film, lol.
@weasel it sounds like you made a weak D23ish type developer. Could call it D8 as you had about 1/3 the amount of metol as D-76 normally has. :wink:

Yep, D-23 has some considerable tolerance. But given what borax costs relative to metol, unless you're going to replenish D-76H will be cheaper to use than D-23, plus saving you (a little) time by working faster. Assuming you actually know what you're developing with... :whistling:
 

Heath Moore

Member
Joined
Mar 31, 2021
Messages
14
Location
Long Beach CA
Format
Medium Format
I am at a new place. Yes it has to be the water. Cleaned with isopropyl alcohol cleaned almost everything.
I have to say I like the film especially with a flash.

My film came out with a case of measles. Attachment is a small corner of a 6x6 but the spots are consistent throughout the entire roll.
HP5 120, no prewash, Legacy D76 1:2, 10min at 76f (too hot?), indicator stop, Legacy eco.pro fix 3min, rinse, arista hypo wash 5min, wash 5min, drop of dish washing liquid then air dry.
The negatives show no marking either side.
Afterward processed 4x5 negs in same chemistry... no marking.
I'll try rewashing and the alcohol rub, but I'm pretty sure its in the film. If it comes out I'll repost.
Has anyone seen such a case of measles?
 

Attachments

  • 220731VirgLk001 (2).jpg
    220731VirgLk001 (2).jpg
    248.7 KB · Views: 124

Sirius Glass

Subscriber
Joined
Jan 18, 2007
Messages
48,304
Location
Southern California
Format
Multi Format
My film came out with a case of measles. Attachment is a small corner of a 6x6 but the spots are consistent throughout the entire roll.
HP5 120, no prewash, Legacy D76 1:2, 10min at 76f (too hot?), indicator stop, Legacy eco.pro fix 3min, rinse, arista hypo wash 5min, wash 5min, drop of dish washing liquid then air dry.
The negatives show no marking either side.
Afterward processed 4x5 negs in same chemistry... no marking.
I'll try rewashing and the alcohol rub, but I'm pretty sure its in the film. If it comes out I'll repost.
Has anyone seen such a case of measles?

This is an example of problems from the paper backing that most 120 films experienced recently. For a while the paper backing was changed due to supply changes and the replacement backing had spotting and mottling issues. There is nothing wrong with your development regime.
 

Heath Moore

Member
Joined
Mar 31, 2021
Messages
14
Location
Long Beach CA
Format
Medium Format
This is an example of problems from the paper backing that most 120 films experienced recently. For a while the paper backing was changed due to supply changes and the replacement backing had spotting and mottling issues. There is nothing wrong with your development regime.

Thanks! I found the appropriate thread about Ilford mfg problems and posted there. Also sent Ilford support a report on their form. KInda makes you wish they would go back to supplying 220 again!
 

Sirius Glass

Subscriber
Joined
Jan 18, 2007
Messages
48,304
Location
Southern California
Format
Multi Format
Thanks! I found the appropriate thread about Ilford mfg problems and posted there. Also sent Ilford support a report on their form. KInda makes you wish they would go back to supplying 220 again!

The header and tail for 220 film have more and bigger problems which drove up the cost adding to the demise of 220 film for the most part.
 

Tim Stapp

Member
Joined
Dec 21, 2012
Messages
527
Location
Big Rapids, MI
Format
4x5 Format
I got a blank roll of 120 film after running it through the RB67. I figured out what went wrong. In my rush to get out the door and to location before the fog lifted, I loaded the film so that the film was facing the back of the magazine. I've used this camera since 1992, and never made this error. I also forgot my tripod, so had to hand hold. I shot a video, but didn't know of the screw up until after development. All I could do was laugh!
Here is a recent upload...


I recently did the same thing. Must be I need a new roll for clip testing of both developer and fixer. Money well spent :smile:
 

SodaAnt

Member
Joined
Jul 4, 2023
Messages
410
Location
California
Format
Digital
One issue not mentioned on that Ilford page, but one I've seen: Images are there and look fine, but there's no "edge signing".

This happened to me with expired PanF Plus. Apparently, latent images fade away on this film if the film is not developed promptly. The images were fine because I developed the film the day after exposing it, but the edge signing was exposed years earlier when the film was manufactured and had faded into invisibility.
 
Joined
May 30, 2017
Messages
401
Location
Schaumburg, Germany
Format
Multi Format
One issue not mentioned on that Ilford page, but one I've seen: Images are there and look fine, but there's no "edge signing".

This happened to me with expired PanF Plus. Apparently, latent images fade away on this film if the film is not developed promptly. The images were fine because I developed the film the day after exposing it, but the edge signing was exposed years earlier when the film was manufactured and had faded into invisibility.

Yes, noticed that, too - the edge numbers are just factory made images...
As I don't buy fresh film every two months, it is something to live with - PanF+ is worth it.
 

MattKing

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Apr 24, 2005
Messages
46,659
Location
Delta, BC, Canada
Format
Multi Format
One issue not mentioned on that Ilford page, but one I've seen: Images are there and look fine, but there's no "edge signing".

This happened to me with expired PanF Plus. Apparently, latent images fade away on this film if the film is not developed promptly. The images were fine because I developed the film the day after exposing it, but the edge signing was exposed years earlier when the film was manufactured and had faded into invisibility.

It isn't your "screw-up" though - probably no-one's.
It is just a characteristic of the film.

Compare that with my efforts today.
I was using my Mamiya C330 on a tripod, and forgot that it doesn't play well with some cable releases. As a result, I ended up advancing a roll of T-Max 400 right through without stopping. Either loosening or removing that cable release restored the camera to normal operation for the next roll.
It seems I have a roll of T-Max 400 that is ready to complete re-spooling to a 620 spool.😉
 
Photrio.com contains affiliate links to products. We may receive a commission for purchases made through these links.
To read our full affiliate disclosure statement please click Here.

PHOTRIO PARTNERS EQUALLY FUNDING OUR COMMUNITY:



Ilford ADOX Freestyle Photographic Stearman Press Weldon Color Lab Blue Moon Camera & Machine
Top Bottom