The thing that's confusing to me is: if it's the emulsion layer being scratched surely the culprit doing the scratching can't be on the pressure plate itself? Wouldn't it have to be a tiny burr or something on the film gate, or similar?
if it's the emulsion layer being scratched
So maybe it's the other side being scratched. That's what I'd expect since the scratches show up white, not black. Emulsion scratches tend to show up black on prints or scans.
I had the same problems with the pressure plate scratching the negative of my new MP in 2019. Leica has replaced the pressure plate and my MP works since then flawlessly.
Interestingly I was searching several times with the magnifier the entire surface of the pressure plate for the defect but I couldn’t find something
I have shot all kinds of cheap and expansive cameras. Different kinds and brands. Even plastic toy point and shoots. Never have I experienced cameras scratching films.
I dont know if this is just my experience but I doubt it happens often or maybe at all.
FSU cameras weren't cheap for us in USSR. And I never used expensive filmy cameras. Never had need, urge for it. Even my film Ms were well under 1K$.
Nor my post was about how rare scratching film is. It was about how easy it is to fix instead of whining on ten pages.
I cannot image laying out $5500 for a new film camera let alone going after the pressure plate (of all things) with sand paper on a brand new $5500 film camera! It is completely insane!
Can you imagine if South Park did an episode on this latest Leica kerfuffle?
To the mods - is it possible to change or include M6 film scratching in this thread title?
For those who end up with a digital file as the final product, whether to post or print, the scratches are a minor annoyance since they probably don't show up on social media posts or they can be carefully cleaned up in Photoshop for larger files or printing. However, what is the point of buying a top-class analog camera if you're not going to print in the darkroom? Leica makes some very respectable digital cameras today.So now the Leica ambassador has realized that his new M6 also scratches film - because he posted new scans from a lab that show that - but the defense is it doesn't matter because no-one would notice it.
I guess if that was the case, then that whole thread doesn't actually exist. It was all a dream...
I had the same problems with the pressure plate scratching the negative of my new MP in 2019. Leica has replaced the pressure plate and my MP works since then flawlessly.
Interestingly I was searching several times with the magnifier the entire surface of the pressure plate for the defect but I couldn’t find something
So now the Leica ambassador has realized that his new M6 also scratches film - because he posted new scans from a lab that show that - but the defense is it doesn't matter because no-one would notice it.
I guess if that was the case, then that whole thread doesn't actually exist. It was all a dream...
However, what is the point of buying a top-class analog camera if you're not going to print in the darkroom?
So now the Leica ambassador has realized that his new M6 also scratches film - because he posted new scans from a lab that show that - but the defense is it doesn't matter because no-one would notice it.
Absolutely unbelievable! It's double-plus good.
I keep thinking....Huss probably exposes more film in an average weekend walkabout than most of these Leica fan boys do in a year. Who's opinion on the matter is more valuable? That of the "Brand Ambassador" marketing shill , or an actual photographer?
It doesn't look like the meter in his M6 works very well either.
I went to his website to check out his photos. He has his galleries set up by which Leica lens he used to take the photo.
Jonathan Slack Photography
www.slack.co.uk
Valuable to whom?
As I understand it, film forces you to slow down, to shoot more mindfully, to carefully compose your images, and to think more before you shoot. If you shoot digital, it's all mindless spray and pray with your eyes closed, not to mention digital is not real photography because it doesn't involve bitumen of Judea.
Good point. Lots of folks a Leica only to use it as a fashion accessory. Presumably, these folks have a very high vested interest in the brand retaining all of its exclusive, luxury status and therefore would strongly downplay and attempt to discredit anything that detracts from that status of their expensive luxury fashion accessory.
Becauses you were pressing on the door while winding
As I understand it, film forces you to slow down, to shoot more mindfully, to carefully compose your images, and to think more before you shoot. If you shoot digital, it's all mindless spray and pray with your eyes closed, not to mention digital is not real photography because it doesn't involve bitumen of Judea.
While this is an accurate description of many of the potential customers, I think there are also customers who just like using expensive things that seem to be exceptionally well made.
Note that I use the word "seem".
A bad pressure plate and ASA setting dial can ruin the usability - for a lot of us - of a camera that is otherwise a pleasure to use.
As Huss has observed, it isn't really those problems that are the concern, it is how poorly they are being dealt with.
Good point. I always forget about those who are obsessed with fondling the brass. Lots of folks buy a Leica only to use it as a fashion accessory. Presumably, these folks have a very strong interest in the brand retaining all of its luxury status and therefore would strongly downplay and attempt to discredit anything that detracts from that status of their expensive luxury fashion accessory.
Photrio.com contains affiliate links to products. We may receive a commission for purchases made through these links. To read our full affiliate disclosure statement please click Here. |
PHOTRIO PARTNERS EQUALLY FUNDING OUR COMMUNITY: ![]() |