Vinyl has made a legitimate comeback, with new pressing facilities coming on line.
Vinyl records have been making a comeback for a at least dozen years. It is not a new phenomenon. With the rise first in downloads and now in streaming, with the emphasis on the single, and the resulting decline in CD sales, vinyl now accounts for something like 10% of album sales. It is a healthy niche market. Lots of people have a few albums, just like lots of people shoot a few rolls of film.
Are fountain pens, typewriters and vinyl records making a comeback?
Do you have any evidence for that?
Digital gear is relatively inexpensive shot for shot. If you bought the latest £2k camera every couple of years and traded in your old model, it would still be less expensive than shooting film.
I just don't see that for anyone committed to photography beyond the snapshot. High quality digital cameras and lenses cost a fortune, much more than a top of the line used Hasselblad or Leica M6. I have an excellent darkroom that cost much less to buy and use than my partner's digital stuff. She has an excellent computer, 8 external hard rives and an expensive monitor. She still shoots film, but scans everything on an Imacon, not an inexpensive proposition. And all this before the first print is made.
Is that necessarily bad?I was being facetious in my comment about records, leaky pens and mechanical word processors. You can all stop updating me.
Also I can get pristine LPs for free just about anywhere, but they're all Herb Alpert.
I have quickly lost the expectation that a digital camera will last more than five years. That was my point. Cameras are to be replaced very frequently which will hurt the photographic world. Double and triple down with photography specific items such as large storage devices and cards, expensive and ephemeral printers, and software subscriptions (the new normal), then I believe many will walk away from what has become an expensive hobby.
I guess photographers will buy a Nikon z7 when their D800 dies in the next year or two (or a bit longer). When I was in high school photography wasn't too expensive for me because I used an at that time 20 year old camera and lens (the sensor was replaced frequently!). I don't think that there are too many 20 year Nikon D1 cameras handed down today to novice photographers.
There was a useful used market when photographers back in the day when photographers with means upgraded to the latest and greatest. That is a much diminished world for digital cameras. The disposability of cameras is what is new. My guess is that camera companies don't feel warm fuzzies when thinking about the future market of stand alone cameras.
I have quickly lost the expectation that a digital camera will last more than five years.
This is exactly what popped into my mind as well. No complaints here. Not familiar with Dinah Washington.Is that necessarily bad?
My parents had this album - and I was a teenager! It is actually quite good.
As Herb Alpert was the "A" in A&M Records, it certainly isn't bad to be associated with him.
FWIW, my parents had excellent tastes in Jazz, and the records (and CDs) that I have from them are generally really good.
Anyone for a little Dinah Washington?
weird
i regularly use a digital camera that is about IDK 12 years old ( and sell work made from it )
and one that is even older, and my phone camera is IDK 5 years old too.
my scanner is 13 years old or more ..
whenever people talk about how all of this stuff needs to be updated regularly
i wonder what kind of photography they are doing and why everything needs to be upgraded so often.
my scanner is used pretty much 5 or 6 times a week and phone about the same and digital camera
not as regularly but often enough ... ( and again $$ comes out of it, they aren't instagram 72dpi images )
im sorry to ask this but do folks that upgrade their digital gear so often
upgrade their washer and dryer and stove and dishwasher and car and bicycle and film cameras as often ?
when i was a kid growing up i knew of people who got new "major appliances" every other year
LOL my refrigerator, stove dishwasher 20 years old and washer and dryer maybe 25 or 30 my car is almost 20 and one bike is 50-60 and the other is IDK 40
my film cameras are old too.. ( some are 130years old )
Is that necessarily bad?
My parents had this album - and I was a teenager! It is actually quite good.
As Herb Alpert was the "A" in A&M Records, it certainly isn't bad to be associated with him.
FWIW, my parents had excellent tastes in Jazz, and the records (and CDs) that I have from them are generally really good.
Anyone for a little Dinah Washington?
thanksOne of my prints that I took to a Royal Photographic Society advisory day was from a 12MP m4/3 camera and they had zero issues with it technically.
I don't think it's got anything to do with Photography, it's just gear heads wanting the latest stuff.
For stills, digital tech matured a long time ago for the majority of us. Expect the gear heads to be obsessing over video specs as that seems to be the main driver in digital cameras now.
vinyl ... really ?
they cost about 15x what they cost in 1981
instead of $1.99 for an LP theyare bertween 27-30$ sometimes for a 4song EP
not sure that is a comeback
maybe when kodachrome is made in china and
released in the usa for $300'roll we can say film has made a comeback too
You're kidding? It is a favorite sport around APUG, now Photrio.I don't see film-only people insulting the digital users. Always the other way around.
IDK my local record store? they sold everything from bootlegs to european "nice price" pressings to everything else/ prices ranged from $1.99 for some stuff to maybe $7.99 for something exotis, double album obscure &c ..I don't know where you were buying your LPs in 1981.I sure don't know where the hell you're buying them today. But those prices do not add up.
huhI don't see film-only people insulting the digital users. Always the other way around.
vinyl ... really ?
.....
not sure that is a comeback
Some yes, but way more of "go talk digital somewhere else - this is our place".You're kidding? It is a favorite sport around APUG, now Photrio.
Yes, the land of H and D, just a checkbox away.Some yes, but way more of "go talk digital somewhere else - this is our place".
Where have you been the last years, on the moon?
go to the stores in my neighborhood and you'll see what's dead or laughed out the store if you ask for film!It's just the other way round:
People who invested thousands of dollars in digital gear because they believed in the "film is dead" propaganda, can't stand the fact that film has not dissappeard, and is now gaining interest again.
Their "wishful thinking" it that film has no future, because then they can justify for themselves that they have paid so much for digital gear.
Fact is that the market for digital cameras has collapsed by 85% in the last years. Lots of digital OEM camera manufacturers had to stop production, and even the first big player (Samsung) left the digital camera market.
And instant film is now a huge mass volume market again, being much much bigger than the market for DSLM / MILC cameras. The MILC market was about 4.1 million units in 2017, the market for instant film cameras was more than 7 million cameras (!!!) in 2017.
The "film is dead" prayers only demonstrate their lack of knowledge of the current photography market developments.
What a fantasy.People who invested thousands of dollars in digital gear because they believed in the "film is dead" propaganda, can't stand the fact that film has not dissappeard, and is now gaining interest again. Their "wishful thinking" it that film has no future, because then they can justify for themselves that they have paid so much for digital gear.
Where have you been the last years, on the moon?
Vinyl has made a huge comeback:
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