Well a different company stopped actually ~ as Agfa Gervert sold off their Leverkursen factory (2005-6) cheap cause it was not uber profitable maybe? The purchasers gave up and called in administrators.
They were selling APX before and after the exchange of ownership.
One of their finishings was 48m reloads of PET APX400s for survelliance cameras... History from bygone age but large volume.
Adox has just answered the suggestion that they make a 400 ISO film on their new coater that - the market was too competitive - on a concurrent thread.
It is not me you have to convince but the retail trade they have to risk their money.
Mini labs and film cam shops are still disappearing here.
Hi, I need to convince nobody. Did the fact that genuine Bad Sarrow ADOX films came after the Agfa and that there is Ferrania around the corner, or the Kentmere line of films in its many incarnations, of the Filmotec packed in cassettes surprise you?
Yes, I do remember 400s, even advertised in magazines.
All that was yesterday read the Adox response.
Tomorrow Adox need to start with niche films that sell...
The day after yes definite maybe...
Fuji could not sell Neopan400 they remaindered over production as Leagacy Pro, it was as good as Tx, HP5+, APX400... etc.,
I still have reels of 400s... And one Legacy...
Separate topic, separate post. A hearty APUG welcome to Neil, Sue, and David from Central Illinois, USA!
I have no idea about the reasons that led Ilford going into receivership 10 years ago but this time round that hasn't happened. I can't see any benefit to this VC company except in progressing Harman / Ilford as a viable company. So in short I don't think anyone has anything to worry about unless the company isn't profitable. Assuming B+W sales are stable or increasing then that isn't likely to happen unless someone has seen the companies profit and loss accounts at companies house which show different. The VC company would have checked those before commiting to purchase so I think they must perceive Ilford as viable going concern with potential for increased profits.
So sit back and see what happens. The next crisis point will be lease renewal in 10 years or maybe sooner or it could already have happened for all we know.
One of the dangers of a change of control of a company is the loss of key people who are experts on the product and/or business sector. I have direct personal experience with this principle as a former employee of a company that underwent a change of control.
I also have indirect experience with this principle with regard to Harman... not the company under current ownership, but under the immediate previous ownership/management. I had a technical question about the spectral response of their variable contrast papers. It was a question that went beyond the meager information given in their online documentation but one that would be well within what a company should know about the products they manufacture. The company could not answer the question because the technical information I sought had been lost, presumably through key employee attrition combined with loss of product documentation. This happened just a very few years ago.
It would be an extraordinary outcome if this principle were not to apply to the company after the present change of control. Indeed, we already know that most of the principals have already left the company, though we know less about what is happening among the rank and file. Time will tell of course, but I wouldn't bet the farm against the odds.
It would be an extraordinary outcome if this principle were not to apply to the company after the present change of control. Indeed, we already know that most of the principals have already left the company, though we know less about what is happening among the rank and file. Time will tell of course, but I wouldn't bet the farm against the odds.
Please stop with the opinions based on historical experience and circumstances. It does not play well into those who do not want to hear it.
Don't look then.
You are assuming mine was not, as well?
I assumed yours was not, but evidently I was wrong.
This is not the first time I have been wrong about something.
[/QUOTE]that's a good observation
QUOTE=RobC;1953790886]http://www.hurst.co.uk/news/pemberstone-ventures-focuses-growth-harman-technology
£20M seems like quite a small amount of turnover for a company with 200 employees exporting to 40 countries.
I presume that includes all its inkjet media too.
The demise of the AgfaPhoto production entity still is kind of enigmatic.
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