So you win the Mega Powerball what 35mm SLR would you bring back? Ower

[drmoss_ca]

I like the idea of a Nikon F6(F7) with updated focus technology and the capability to use the newer lenses with the magnetic diaphragm aperture design.

How about IBIS technology applied to the film???

I suspect it might be easier to use some of your winning s to buy a set of VR lenses!

 

[jtk]

Nikon ftn.

 

[abruzzi]

It’s would be fairly easy to grasp the film firmly in a frame and move that around, using films ability to bend. We are talking very small movements after all.
Also sucking or pressing film into a gentle curve under a lens element would allow smaller, simpler and better wides.

Left and right, yes, but up and down would cause buckling, especially because the goal of the film transport system is to hold the film tight.

 

[Helge]

Left and right, yes, but up and down would cause buckling, especially because the goal of the film transport system is to hold the film tight.

Film transport would of course need to be completely different. The clamping frame would take over all of the “keeping flat” duties.
Sliding would be possible. We are only talking fractions of a millimeter after all.

 

[Huss]

Didnt the Contax RTS III have a vacuum system to hold the film flat? That should work w ibis.

 

[eli griggs]

Thinking about this thread, I should also add to the F1 models, the Hasselblad 500cm.

A ruggedized 500cm, Titanium or stainless body with rust/corrosion proof gears, screws, etc, instead of unprotected carbon steels seems to me to be a camera worth making for the next fifty plus years, using the high standard of the original workmanship and methods.

For example, I remember a print ad for Hasselblad where the company bragged about the use of new tacks to clean up and polish their gears.

Another spoke of their use of horse hair and these still make sense if we wanted to avail ourselves of this top notch design in new production.

With the prices where they are for Hasselblad cm body's, etc, I do no believe a upgrade in materials and the skilled handwork involved would be significantly higher, or am I wrong?

 

[Deleted member 88956]

Didnt the Contax RTS III have a vacuum system to hold the film flat? That should work w ibis.

It did, it was one of those craziest gimmicks of all time. Belongs in the technological hall of shame. Of course they ran tests to show how much flatter the film plane was, and man, what a difference did that make in final photographic results. I never figured how anyone managed without it ... nor since. I wanted to buy one, but they never offered a free vacuum cleaner with it. Wanted to keep a scene dust free too, so when image was projected onto that sucked in film plane, no external factors would have affected resolved detail.

 

[tokam]

If we're going for a simpler mechanical camera I'd like an early Canon F1 with a Copal Square shutter and silicon cell metering for better sensitivity and responsiveness. Switchable partial and spot metering patterns ala T90 would also be nice. I don't need autofocus and winder / motor drives add unnecessary weight.

(I'm agnostic on lens mount).

 

[JerseyDoug]

Rather than complete cameras I would make a commitment to keep all of the parts necessary to keep the Nikon F working available, including manufacturing those parts that become otherwise unavailable. The one all new component would be repro prism finders in both black and chrome. There are a lot more otherwise functional F's out there than unmetered prism finders.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Rather than complete cameras I would make a commitment to keep all of the parts necessary to keep the Nikon F working available, including manufacturing those parts that become otherwise unavailable. The one all new component would be repro prism finders in both black and chrome. There are a lot more otherwise functional F's out there than unmetered prism finders.

And of course Nikon will not come after your for patent and copyright infringements, correct?

 

[Huss]

And of course Nikon will not come after your for patent and copyright infringements, correct?

What is the expiration time-line on a patent? 20 years? Hmm, I may introduce a knock off Nikon F100.

I'll call it the F Optical Full Finder 100.

Or F OFF 100 for short.

 

[Sirius Glass]

What is the expiration time-line on a patent? 20 years? Hmm, I may introduce a knock off Nikon F100.

I'll call it the F Optical Full Finder 100.

Or F OFF 100 for short.

I believe it is more like 75 years, depending on the country.

 

[Huss]

I believe it is more like 75 years, depending on the country.

Just looked it up https://www.uspto.gov/patents

- 20 years.

• In 1994 the US signed the Uruguay Round Agreements Act changed the date from which the term was measured. Because the term was measured from the filing date of the application and not the grant date of the patent, Congress amended 35 U.S.C. § 154 to provide for applications filed after June 7, 1995 that the term of a patent begins on the date that the patent issues and ends on the date that is twenty years from the date on which the application was filed in the U.S. or, if, the application contained a specific reference to an earlier filed application or applications under 35 USC 120, 121 or 365(c), twenty years from the filing date of the earliest of such application. In addition, 35 U.S.C. 154 was amended to provide term extension if the original patent was delayed due to secrecy orders, interferences, or appellate review periods.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Just looked it up https://www.uspto.gov/patents

- 20 years.

• In 1994 the US signed the Uruguay Round Agreements Act changed the date from which the term was measured. Because the term was measured from the filing date of the application and not the grant date of the patent, Congress amended 35 U.S.C. § 154 to provide for applications filed after June 7, 1995 that the term of a patent begins on the date that the patent issues and ends on the date that is twenty years from the date on which the application was filed in the U.S. or, if, the application contained a specific reference to an earlier filed application or applications under 35 USC 120, 121 or 365(c), twenty years from the filing date of the earliest of such application. In addition, 35 U.S.C. 154 was amended to provide term extension if the original patent was delayed due to secrecy orders, interferences, or appellate review periods.

Thanks that is 20 years then.

 

[eli griggs]

Considering most of the legacy 35mm kit is 30 years minimum, in the U.S., we would be spoilt for our choices for a return or revision for a F1 or F2 or Spotmatic kit, etc.

I wish one of the Big Camera Companies would reimagine their most loved (by today's analog shooters that keep their legends alive) cameras and lenses, built to all metal standards and Manual Operations, and re-approach film manufacturing by contracting what could only be considered, "loss leaders", to become incentives to buy the new products and shoot them often.

I'm sure loads of folks here can poke holes in the actual implementation of such pipe dreams, but it's nice to know at least, we do have plenty of used kit and films for the time being.

 

[Sirius Glass]

We can always hope that a camera manufacturer will come out with a new anniversary model.

 

[eli griggs]

Yes, but have the factories invested in cnc, 3-D, and robotics where before smaller contractors made all metal components?

 

[JerseyDoug]

And of course Nikon will not come after your for patent and copyright infringements, correct?

Hey, we're talking big money here. Plenty for a team of good patent attorneys.

 

[Paul Howell]

And of course Nikon will not come after your for patent and copyright infringements, correct?

The F mount is no longer covered by 1951 patients, I forget the model but there was a late model Russain SLR with F mount, and a few years ago a rumor of a Russian DSLR with a MF F mount in development. Likely just a fable. Other dead mounts that could be used M42 and K, Minolta MD, Canon FD, or Konica AR, Petri breech, or Exacta/Topcon mount.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Hey, we're talking big money here. Plenty for a team of good patent attorneys.

Even attorneys have a right to earn a living. Just ask Matt.

 

[Huss]

The F mount is no longer covered by 1951 patients, I forget the model but there was a late model Russain SLR with F mount, and a few years ago a rumor of a Russian DSLR with a MF F mount in development. Likely just a fable. Other dead mounts that could be used M42 and K, Minolta MD, Canon FD, or Konica AR, Petri breech, or Exacta/Topcon mount.

The Lomo Almaz series of kameras were Nikon F2 knock-offs!

http://www.sovietcams.com/index3c92...[2]=menu_4&tmpl_name[2]=m_menu_tree&e_id[2]=7

 

[reddesert]

I believe it is more like 75 years, depending on the country.

You're thinking of copyright, which lasts a long time. As others said, patents are short, typically 20 years. A camera itself isn't an object that can be copyrighted (although its manual or its firmware computer code could be). And trademark registration such as the Nikon name/logo can be renewed. If somebody wanted to knock off a Nikon F, setting aside the manufacturing difficulty, they could do so legally (they could knock off an F100 if they didn't copy the firmware), but they couldn't put "Nikon" on the front obviously.

 

[Sirius Glass]

You're thinking of copyright, which lasts a long time. As others said, patents are short, typically 20 years. A camera itself isn't an object that can be copyrighted (although its manual or its firmware computer code could be). And trademark registration such as the Nikon name/logo can be renewed. If somebody wanted to knock off a Nikon F, setting aside the manufacturing difficulty, they could do so legally (they could knock off an F100 if they didn't copy the firmware), but they couldn't put "Nikon" on the front obviously.

That is exactly what I was thinking about, the copyright.

 

[Chuck1]

Zone medium format film camera | Dora Goodman Cameras

knock 3d printed mess of a mamiya press and rb67. Same idea as what is being talked about here

Sorry to resurrect an old thread but:

Does any one know if dora gooman is still active selling items. I lack 3d printing capabilities. Everything on the web site is sold out...

And the say they use mamiya rb backs,
So they won't work with horseman or graflex?
Any info would be appreciated, thanks

 

[Radost]

Modern small perkeo III but wider with coupled rangefinder
6X7 and panoramic viewfinder switch for 135