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In one of my old editions of the photo lab index Rodinal was recommended as a developer for autochrome plates, so it's even good for color!

So I can substitute it as a "first developer"??
 
Yes, actually. I've done it.

Any issues with that? Sharpness or grain or adjustment to times and dilutions? I've been thinking if making my own E-6 from scratch, if I can skip making the first dev, that would be great but only if it doesn't have serious issues :smile:
 
I was cross processing, so I can't really answer that. It did punch up the grain.
 
1:80 for enlargements. I never knew rodinal was a paper developer too and at such high dilution too.
 
Everyone knows that if you put it in glass bottles and put a very old looking label on it then it will not only work better overall but suddenly acquire enhanced edge effects in rotary processing!

:wink:
 
Everyone knows that if you put it in glass bottles and put a very old looking label on it then it will not only work better overall but suddenly acquire enhanced edge effects in rotary processing!

:wink:

Good one. Just my opinion but if you are decanting Rodinal into glass to make it last longer you aren't developing enough film and if you need an old-timey label you may be paying attention to the wrong things, but hey, everyone can enjoy their hobby their own way.
 
On the other hand, if I'm already going to be using Rodinal for all of my large format negatives anyway (and I am), then if given a choice of containers to purchase, I'd pick the old-timey square-ish brown glass bottle with faux antique label every time.

:wink:

Ken
 
Well I probably would too (though I never got along with Rodinal but will try it again) because they are cool, but not cool enough fit me to waste my time trying to duplicate.


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I've never been keen on the commemorative tin but I'm somewhat surprised that Kodak and Ilford haven't done up some film in throwback packaging.
 
I've never been keen on the commemorative tin but I'm somewhat surprised that Kodak and Ilford haven't done up some film in throwback packaging.

I see another thread starting with photos of old films and developers.
 
I've never been keen on the commemorative tin but I'm somewhat surprised that Kodak and Ilford haven't done up some film in throwback packaging.

When Lomography buys kodak-Alaris from bankruptcy in a few years from bad new management they will... Hah!
 
Everyone knows that if you put it in glass bottles and put a very old looking label on it then it will not only work better overall but suddenly acquire enhanced edge effects in rotary processing!

:wink:

Haha! I always move it to a new bottle because the child proof lid lock fails to function after a while, that's the main reason, I do this with ilford chems too.

The nifty antique bottle is just cause it makes the process more fun. Makes me feel like I'm "back in the day" after all part of why we do this is the joy of the process. :smile:
 
Everyone knows that if you put it in glass bottles and put a very old looking label on it then it will not only work better overall but suddenly acquire enhanced edge effects in rotary processing!

:wink:

Not to mention that warm fuzzy feeling one gets!
 
When Lomography buys kodak-Alaris from bankruptcy in a few years from bad new management they will... Hah!

That would of course leave all the former Kodak Limited employees without any assets to fund their pensions.

When you say "Hah", I assume you find that funny Stone.

The Kodak UK pension plan bought that business as a going concern, along with all of Eastman Kodak's colour paper business.

Do you want that to disappear as well?
 
Haha! I always move it to a new bottle because the child proof lid lock fails to function after a while, that's the main reason, I do this with ilford chems too.

The nifty antique bottle is just cause it makes the process more fun. Makes me feel like I'm "back in the day" after all part of why we do this is the joy of the process. :smile:

I agree they're kind of cool. Hey, my wife and I spent much of the weekend at Anachrocon and I used to be in the SCA. I'm down with old stuff. :smile:

I put Ilford chems in other bottles. I don't know if it's the lid that leaks air once the seal is removed or the bottle, but you can squeeze the air out and seal the bottle cap for all you're worth and it will expand again and developer will die. I lost more than 1/2 bottle of Harman WT developer this way. My next bottle went in two separate brown darkroom bottles (yeah, glass is better, but I have these and I can squeeze the air out and, WTH, they work well enough.)
 
But seriously those brown square bottles would be PERFECT!

The Schott company does not only make the classic cylindrical, brown, glass lab bottles bottles, but the same in a cuboid version too
 
The squared off ones make a lot of sense for stocking manufacturers, shippers, retailers etc. because they save on wasted space compared to round bottles. But for home I don't see as it matters.
 
That would of course leave all the former Kodak Limited employees without any assets to fund their pensions.

When you say "Hah", I assume you find that funny Stone.

The Kodak UK pension plan bought that business as a going concern, along with all of Eastman Kodak's colour paper business.

Do you want that to disappear as well?

Laws in place prevent pensions from disappearing, that only happens if the company illegally raids the funds. Otherwise the pension monies are already safe and secure in an account, regardless of what happens to the company.

Of course I don't want it to happen, but the true reality of a situation and what we want, aren't always the same. I had high hopes for Alaris, but not sure now, we shall see...
 
Laws in place prevent pensions from disappearing, that only happens if the company illegally raids the funds. Otherwise the pension monies are already safe and secure in an account, regardless of what happens to the company.

Of course I don't want it to happen, but the true reality of a situation and what we want, aren't always the same. I had high hopes for Alaris, but not sure now, we shall see...

Maybe US law is different, but certainly the security of UK pensions depends upon the investment abilities of the pension trustees. Pension monies are definitely not "safe and secure in an account". MattKing is correct, if pension money is held (entirely properly and legitimately) in Alaris shares, and Alaris fails, so do the pensions.

Please get you facts correct. (And, FTM, what makes you so dubious about Alaris's prospects ? )
 
Laws in place prevent pensions from disappearing, that only happens if the company illegally raids the funds. Otherwise the pension monies are already safe and secure in an account, regardless of what happens to the company.

Of course I don't want it to happen, but the true reality of a situation and what we want, aren't always the same. I had high hopes for Alaris, but not sure now, we shall see...

Pensions both public and private can and do disappear or shrink, beyond any illegal activity. Unfunded or underfunded pension liability is a major crisis in the US. Kodak USA employees took a big hit. It's happening everywhere, cities and states too. Some may well call it a crime, but judges don't seem to agree. Look it up.
 
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