Oppenheimer Shot IMAX

[VinceInMT]

Laser projection, 70mm, varying sound, Blu-ray, IMAX, BFI….geeez , do I ever feel out of touch. I haven’t watched a movie in at least 12-15 years and haven’t been in a theater in a couple decades. I guess things have changed a bit.

 

[MCB18]

I know the guy who churned-out a bajillion of those 70mm promotional film strips for this film.

Funny to see them selling for outrageous prices on Fleabay and other places.

Got any extras?

(Only kinda joking…)

 

[Kino]

Got any extras?

(Only kinda joking…)

No, don't even have one myself. He is contractually bound to destroy all unused strips; as you would imagine.

 

[Sal Santamaura]

Did you make up some popcorn?

Nope. Just consumed regular foodstuffs we have in the fridge. Also appreciated the ability to pause for a bathroom "intermission" given the long running time (roughly six hours including the special features disc).

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

Nope. Just consumed regular foodstuffs we have in the fridge. Also appreciated the ability to pause for a bathroom "intermission" given the long running time (roughly six hours including the special features disc).

Bathroom breaks are appreciated now that I'm older.

 

[CMoore]

All else being equal................ what might the cost difference be between renting the equipment to shoot digital Vs renting the camera, equipment and costs associated with film.
Similar...2x ... 3x to shoot film.?

 

[cmacd123]

DIgital tends to need bigger crew, (the term "Video Village" comes to mind.) and the Cameras teand to be come Obsolete quickly, so the rental is far higher. not to metion all the recording and editing equipment needed.

It is hard to give an exact multiplier.

digital also tempts the crew to just keep recording, while film often is credited with creating more mental focus on the set.

 

[David Lindquist]

Here is Hoyte van Hoytema's Oscar acceptance speech where he recommends the use of that "incredible new hip thing called celluloid."



David

 

[bfilm]

All else being equal................ what might the cost difference be between renting the equipment to shoot digital Vs renting the camera, equipment and costs associated with film.
Similar...2x ... 3x to shoot film.?

I have the impression that it is actually not more expensive to use film. As @cmacd123 pointed out, digital requires more crew and higher rental costs. The storage media for digital are also quite expensive. The tendency to record and record and record with digital is something I have heard is very frustrating to some longtime actors and actresses.

There are various options with film, too, on the affordability scale. Using 65mm film is obviously more expensive than 35mm film. But 35mm film is the more traditional format. I don't think as many use old-school 4-perf anymore, unless they are recording with anamorphic lenses or want to use the old Academy ratio. I think it is more common nowadays to use 3-perf. And to make it even more affordable, you can record in 2-perf and still have nice quality. 16mm film, of course, makes it even more affordable and can still look quite nice.

Kodak Film Format Choices Infographic (PDF)

I think the main thing is that most people, unfortunately, just don't think of film as the true and best format anymore. People seem to accept constantly new technologies as inevitable and better, instead of understanding that sometimes the best is not the newest or most efficient or most convenient. I also don't have the impression that beauty and authenticity are very important to most people, nowadays.

 

[btaylor]

Here is Hoyte van Hoytema's Oscar acceptance speech where he recommends the use of that "incredible new hip thing called celluloid."



David

Interestingly, this speech takes place in the theater formerly known (and christened) as the Kodak Theater. Motion picture film is not dead- it looked so dire a decade ago.
On another subject, on any decent sized production the film/digital question isn’t much of an economic decision- they are about the same cost in the end.

 

[Kino]

Interestingly, this speech takes place in the theater formerly known (and christened) as the Kodak Theater. Motion picture film is not dead- it looked so dire a decade ago.
On another subject, on any decent sized production the film/digital question isn’t much of an economic decision- they are about the same cost in the end.

Look at the bottom line; the budget for film or digital is dwarfed by salaries, props, catering, etc.

Film is not expensive relative to the budget; at least for large productions.

 

[cmacd123]

"this video is not available" perhaps only in the states?

 

[MattKing]

Coincidentally, my "Hold" on the Oppenheimer blue ray came to the top of the list at the public library on Oscar weekend, so I could at least see it then.
I think I started at about #180, a few months ago.
The blue ray version is very impressive. And the additional features extra disk is really good. There is a lot of information about the role that shooting and editing on film plays in the production. I was really surprised to see the actual 65mm film (I assume an intermediate negative) being manually cut and "glued" in order to effect the edits.
It was also really impressive seeing all the 65mm film cans piled together!

 

[David Lindquist]

"this video is not available" perhaps only in the states?

Oh dear, I just checked here and can still watch it. Who else is experiencing problems?

David

 

[MattKing]

The Academy Awards show is one of those broadcasts where the rights are closely protected. Most likely the excerpt would only be viewable up here in Canada if it was posted/hosted by whoever had the Canadian broadcast rights.

 

[bfilm]

I was really surprised to see the actual 65mm film (I assume an intermediate negative) being manually cut and "glued" in order to effect the edits.

I remember reading somewhere that Christopher Nolan still does an entire analog postproduction process. I wonder if there is anyone else still doing this. C.I.R. in Rome, Italy still make film splicers and inspection tables. I imagine if there is anyone else still doing the full analog process, they are probably using 35mm 4-perf more often than 65mm.

 

[KyleMika]

Colour timing is not an easy skill to have, and few still are experts. They do the editing of the movie digitally and then carry the cuts over to then apply to the negatives/internegatives. But they have to do the color twice as far as I am aware, once to the film prints, and then they match that color with the scans for the digital release. I personally appreciate the fully analog process, but most don't care, even though when you have a pure analog process you can far exceed the print resolution you would get with the 2K/4K scans.

 

[Philippe-Georges]

Oh dear, I just checked here and can still watch it. Who else is experiencing problems?

David

Go to the NOS news website.

 

[chuckroast]

The Academy Awards show is one of those broadcasts where the rights are closely protected. Most likely the excerpt would only be viewable up here in Canada if it was posted/hosted by whoever had the Canadian broadcast rights.

Or ... if you get on a VPN with US exit nodes.

 

[chuckroast]

Colour timing is not an easy skill to have, and few still are experts. They do the editing of the movie digitally and then carry the cuts over to then apply to the negatives/internegatives. But they have to do the color twice as far as I am aware, once to the film prints, and then they match that color with the scans for the digital release. I personally appreciate the fully analog process, but most don't care, even though when you have a pure analog process you can far exceed the print resolution you would get with the 2K/4K scans.

I miss the old days of Arriflex and Eclair using Nagras for audio. I maintained more than a few Nagras. Marvelous beasts.

 

[chuckroast]

Laser projection, 70mm, varying sound, Blu-ray, IMAX, BFI….geeez , do I ever feel out of touch. I haven’t watched a movie in at least 12-15 years and haven’t been in a theater in a couple decades. I guess things have changed a bit.

I used to love going to the theater until my fellow humans decided it was a place to go chat and talk on their phones.

Movie theaters need to implement cell phone blocking.

 

[MattKing]

The additional features disk includes discussion with the people who do the colour timing - film based - and introduce you to the woman who Christopher Nolan brings over for his films because she is the acknowledged expert on 65mm film cutting. From her accent, I'd say she is UK based.

 

[Kino]

The additional features disk includes discussion with the people who do the colour timing - film based - and introduce you to the woman who Christopher Nolan brings over for his films because she is the acknowledged expert on 65mm film cutting. From her accent, I'd say she is UK based.

The only color analyzer I am aware of that can do 65mm natively is the Colormaster, which was build int the UK. I ran the 35mm version of it for about 5 years; it's rather quirky...

 

[VinceInMT]

I used to love going to the theater until my fellow humans decided it was a place to go chat and talk on their phones.

Movie theaters need to implement cell phone blocking.

And the eating…..

 

[Ben 4]

Can someone explain, in simple terms, what color timing is? It's something I've heard about, but reading here it occurs to me that I don't know what it means.